I assume new core just wasn't ready for new stuff like BP and upgrading anything on old core just dont make sense if they knew and if they were in development of the new core. They probably had to bring some hard decisions which are normal in this kind of business. But I think everything will payoff very soon. At least, thats my conclusion. We can only speculate what will happen. As I am an optimist in life, I hope for the best. Time will tell!
Everytime I read something from a MAXON employee I get the feeling that there is some big cultural misunderstanding happening. It seems they don't really understand what are we talking about when we say that MAXON sucks at communication, etc... Maybe it's a German thing?
Or maybe they just don't like writing in English. I wonder if the communication is as bad in German-only forums. I suspect it's not.
And it's not just the lack of communication. Some decisions by MAXON don't make any sense at all. Like letting the industry standard 3d painting software (BodyPaint 3D) rot, until it was totally replaced by newcomers (Mari, Substance Painter, 3D Coat, etc...). This could easily be a Harvard Business School case. An example of an absurdly puzzling business decision.
I’ve enjoyed reading this thread, and I think it has provided a lot insight into C4D and its development; however, I do feel like some the C4D detractors have gone above and beyond to really bash the program and its development track. Unfortunately, I also feel like a few of the supporters are choosing to turn a blind eye to some of the issues and are only viewing things with rose-colored glasses.
I’m very interested in animation and rigging, and I’ve been working on learning that process, primarily in Modo through Rich’s master rigging course. I’m also opening C4D after learning something to see if I can replicate it. For C4D animation input, I have found Brian’s posts here and CGSociety to be extremely helpful, and I mean from years back when they come up on search engines. Based on that information, his opinion seems valid on most things I have read, so to just casually say that the opinion he has expressed based on his experience as a beta-tester to be flat out wrong seems insulting. It’s one thing to say, “I see how you might feel that way, but that hasn’t been my experience,” but to straight up say “Not true” or “simply untrue” seems to causally be brushing aside a valued member of the community without any care whatsoever.
Expressing extreme concern with C4D’s development and showing extreme support of C4D’s development are both extremes that devalues each side’s input, in my opinion.
Because I advised to do that. You maybe misunderstood that lack of replies from devs was a sign of ignorance. No, quite contrary. The issue was that at the very same time work on new core was in very sensitive phase and people simply didn't have time to respond at all. Think about it, how many times during your work you didn't have time to post a reply on some topic on Cafe since you were simply under a pile of work?
But it is one of the major factors and it is called beta testing for a reason, right? :)
In reality, only tangible way to measure contribution from tester is to see how many bugs and of which quality he reported. Of course, his ideas, overall participation and the quality of the content is taken into account.
Nope, I just reacted to statement which was simply untrue, regarding "lack of communication", where in fact his input was certainly taken into account and he participated in all discussions regarding topics in his domain, even talked to dev directly.
Brian didn't envision, design, code, document or tested the feature, he simply provided some personal input based on his experience and preferred workflow, and he was among many people versed into animation that were contacted. There is a long, long, looooong way from idea to finished feature to which many users are simply oblivious about. Please also have in mind that something was maybe impossible to implement at given time in existing framework.
So, let's recap this thread, seems we derailed a bit from the topic. Maybe it will spark some new, better light on overall matter. So, Cinema has brand new core in works which was being worked on for years in secrecy, communication is changing towards what most people want, MAXON opens new offices and hires a lot off staff in recent years, it is also growing each year and earning much more (public data), we have developers posting here on cafe, so the only thing that makes people unhappy is not knowing exactly the roadmap with exact features for future? :)