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Ar Vs The Others

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Me personally,

I like AR.

Whats weird sometimes i don't even use AR,

Most of the time I don't use anything but lights.

If you now how to work and tweek to your blue in the face just to keep your renders down to this life time, AR can be your best friend when you need it.

Beside, is the CG realism ever gonna stop and how for will it go.

And one day will you be able to tell the difference from CG and Reality.

Machine are faster and more powerful, and zippier then they where yesterday.

So the advancement is never going to end until reality meets virtual CG reality.

Then what?

Keep going.

Where......?

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quote "Ben does a lot of clean up and Photoshop editing to his images.

His work isn't a good source to use to compare render engine results."

this is where alot of the difference is, there is a real divide between people who do lot of post work and people that dont,

on a proffesional level i dont see that anyone would just use a straight render, i for one never leave my render as it is, theres always something to tweak, animation is a different story i guess where you dont want to be doing all the post work to every frame, although most people that use a 3d package would also then use something like after after effects to grade the animation or add extra details and moods, for me you could have the best renderer in the world an it still wouldnt be enough,

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quote "Ben does a lot of clean up and Photoshop editing to his images.

His work isn't a good source to use to compare render engine results."

I think his results are as good as I've seen from AR so a very valid example for render results. Sure he does post work in Photoshop, but so would a pro using Vray or Maxwell.

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yep, the basis has to be there to do the post work his results are a very very good example

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....why not pool our resources?

How about a few volunteers....eg. each one take the same exact scene and render it

on one of the following engines, tweeked as you may...give it your best shot:

1. C4D alone

2. AR

3. VRay

4. Maxwell

5. FinalRender

6. FryRender

7. WhatEverElseIsOutThereRender R1.5003.02 (1 bazillion Euros) roflmao.gif

Maybe Kiwi or Damsel could be the referee, give us the .c4d scene????

Then submit the untouched results (no post stuff) for comparison.

I'd be happy to do the stand-alone C4D. :)

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Spot on Scott.

Cheers

Karl

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fair enough point, unlike me to go off in the wrong direction laugh.gif

as you say

"It does have some very well known problems handling flat surfaces. And dealing with complicated light bounces inside a room.

That's why you'll find it at the top of every wish list out there. "

also very true, someone did a maxwell render here a little while back with some reflective surfaces and the difference was mind blowing.

il shut up now smile.gif

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Colibert,

as you have AR & VRay, would you be willing to take the render challenge

if one gets set up, to do the renders in AR & VRay? You seem very adept

at both.

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Its unfair for the challenge.

one might have tricks up the sleave that the other is unaware of.

I know i could use some....rrr .........alot more schooling in vray. just to be halfway decent at it.

Finalrender for c4d has its own xpresso editor, weird huh.

Guess its uses all of cinemas attribute nativaly.

Even the material has a xpresso editor to it.

Haven't yet figured that one out yet

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yeah i would be happy to give it a shot, but as mrkuz says its a bit of a weird challenge, there are lots of littlle tricks people have and use, saying that id be prepared to take a scene and do a straight render from both

im no expert and there are a lot of people of who have better lighting and texturing knowledge than me so it wouldnt be a true test, but then where do you stop, theres always someone who can get more out of things than the last person, and there are a lot more experienced people on here than me

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Instead of a challenge, do a homework type of deal with a scene and specified setting,or doesn't cinema log things for ya.

Or a video cast of what your doing any why.

Yeah, alot can be learned from this sort thing

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"yeah i would be happy to give it a shot, but as mrkuz says its a bit of a weird challenge, there are lots of littlle tricks people have and use, saying that id be prepared to take a scene and do a straight render from both.

im no expert and there are a lot of people of who have better lighting and texturing knowledge than me so it wouldnt be a true test, but then where do you stop, theres always someone who can get more out of things than the last person, and there are a lot more experienced people on here than me" - Colibert

You're way too modest....I looked at the interior shot that comes up on your gallery, and thought, "Ooooooh! Well done!" (VRay?)......and that's your "early work".

Just thought it would be fun & informative to see the different renders of the same scene.

Thanks for all the helpful feedback.....I'm going to try the Maxwell trial (per Lesia44's suggestion),

probably will wait to see what happens with AR, and maybe even save up for VRay.

Hopefully MAXON is listening to what's been said.

Cheers everyone!

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