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AR3 vs LuxRender vs Octane?

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Is there any advantage of LuxRender or Octane over AR3?

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Is there any advantage of LuxRender or Octane over AR3?
...probably not.

After checking out LR, it looks interesting, but I'm not sure it's worth the time to

learn to use it. It may render more realistically, but AR3 renders are prettier. bigwink.png

...I won't even bother with Octane.

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Yeah, don't bother with Octane. these renders are really poor......... not.

http://www.evermotion.org/tutorials/show/7961/octane-render-review

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I'm no expert... To my eye the octane renders are less to be desired plus some of the examples look filtered, a little over saturated with a hight black point. I'm still learning but totally convince AR3 is about the best renderer out there. Even the stuff at Vray looks all fake to my eye. Its like they crank up the gamma and scatter the light all over the place. I'm investing my time in AR3 and starting to get some good results.( I will post them when I think they are up to par.) There is enough information and talent on this board alone to master AR3. I used to get sucked into looking at all the other stuff (thinking thats the answer) then realized its not the pencil it is the person behind it ....lol

Bonjour!

This was posted before by other members and was written in 2008... It is the first tutorial I read on rendering. I think it is a good starting point.

http://mvpny.com/R11GITutorial/R11GITutorial_Part1.html

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Neil,

re: Octane...beautiful renders...thanks for the link. I may "bother" with it yet, but

for now will see how far I get with AR3. Just haven't had time so far...but hope to soon

when I retire (if I live that long...life is so unpredictable)

Baltra, thanks for the AR3 tutorial link, mon ami! :)

You're right..."its not the pencil it is the person behind it ....lol" sc018.gif

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Well, if you think this is true then you really are still learning. Don't get me wrong, AR3 is powerful but it's not quite in the same league as VRay or Maxwell for example.It's not even on a par with Modo's in-built render engine. With no BRDF material system, no true physical camera and poor depth of field and motion blur it still has some catching up to do I'm afraid. If you need any convincing about VRay for example just check the Evermotion forums. There are not many images on that look 'fake' as you put it.

I'm still learning but totally convince AR3 is about the best renderer out there. Even the stuff at Vray looks all fake to my eye.

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Well, if you think this is true then you really are still learning. Don't get me wrong, AR3 is powerful but it's not quite in the same league as VRay or Maxwell for example.It's not even on a par with Modo's in-built render engine. With no BRDF material system, no true physical camera and poor depth of field and motion blur it still has some catching up to do I'm afraid. If you need any convincing about VRay for example just check the Evermotion forums. There are not many images on that look 'fake' as you put it.

I'm sorry ... The stuff over at Evermotion just doesn't do it for me. Don't get me wrong there is some really great work over there done by some extremely talented artists... However to my eye .... something is missing ....

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Could you show me some superior AR3 renders? I'd love to see them.

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Could you show me some superior AR3 renders? I'd love to see them.

I'm not going to argue with you. I working 24/7 on this, when I achieve the results I am after.... Absolute ... then you can be the judge. All I'm saying there seems to be substance in the whole rendering process that is missing ... To my eye most of what I see looks lifeless and that is a product of the rendering not the artist... I'm sure you would most likely agree with me that a evolution of the render process has to occur, what that might be ... I don't know yet.

Your right .. I am new to C4d about 10 months now. lol

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I'm no expert... To my eye the octane renders are less to be desired plus some of the examples look filtered, a little over saturated with a hight black point. I'm still learning but totally convince AR3 is about the best renderer out there. Even the stuff at Vray looks all fake to my eye. Its like they crank up the gamma and scatter the light all over the place.

No, seriously dude, you couldn't be further off if you tried. It's a simple, and widely acknowledged, fact that both Vray and Maxwell are superior to AR. AR has improved leaps and bounds with the last rewrite but it's still little league compare to the other two.

Cheers

Karl

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Baltra, I wasn't arguing with you. It's totally subjective and AR3 is a great render engine. Put it this way, I use AR3, VRay and Maxwell and they all have their strong points and their weak points. I use VRay mostly because I can get the best results out of it - for stills. I wouldn't touch it for animation. I wouldn't touch Maxwell for animation either. VRay is a deeper engine to understand and has more complexity than AR3 and I believe from experience that VRay is better in many ways than AR3. I have seen some amazing work done with AR3 and some terrible work done with VRay - that is purely down to the artist. But pound for pound VRay has more advanced features than AR3. Then again, people harp on about Maxwell being the most photorealistic renderer on the market (and it is) but it still doesn't have the ability to alter white balance directly within the physical camera. VRay can do this. This is a big oversight in my opinion.

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OK ... you win ..... My apologies if I said the wrong thing... All I know is I'm starting to get some really impressive results from AR3 and I'm going to stick with it until I squeeze the last pixel out of it. And I will post the renders when I'm there ... Meanwhile I'm open to different renderers I just can't see jumping around at this point.

This board is great and everyone has really good input, A huge knowledge base.

Thank You

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