Jump to content



Forums, gallery and free tutorials for Cinema 4D. Registration is fast and free. Please ensure you read our rules before joining.

Photo

Ar Vs The Others


  • This topic is locked This topic is locked
89 replies to this topic

#81 StCanas

StCanas

    This is not me...

  • Regular Member
  • 4,399 posts
  • Location: England

Posted 09 August 2008 - 05:12 PM

Vray has Caustics.

Cheers
Karl

#82 Vilandra

Vilandra

    Lead 3D Modeler for the UpThink Lab

  • Regular Member
  • 3,150 posts
  • C4D Version:13 Studio
  • Location: Augusta, GA USA

Posted 09 August 2008 - 05:22 PM

But can it generate caustics with only a HDRI? No lights, just a HDRI for illumination.

Edited by Vilandra, 09 August 2008 - 05:23 PM.


#83 StCanas

StCanas

    This is not me...

  • Regular Member
  • 4,399 posts
  • Location: England

Posted 09 August 2008 - 05:28 PM

Don't know, haven't had the need for caustics yet so haven't tried them, but there is a caustics tab. Even if it doesn't work just with hdri that's not a problem for me as I never just use hdri, I always use lights as well.

Cheers
Karl

#84 mrkucz

mrkucz
  • Regular Member
  • 1,133 posts
  • Location: Swanton, Ohio

Posted 09 August 2008 - 07:09 PM

Re: Indigo!! Wow......I dig it! Thanks mrkucz, that's awesome.

Maxwell is a non-starter for me......Indigo looks like a real winner.
Especially attractive as it's price-less :)

How does the render quality compare with AR or VRay , disregarding
render time?

This is the kind of render I'm looking for.....check this gallery pic

BTW, what processor, ram, videocard, etc do you have?

I'll see what it can do vs C4D alone. [img]http://www.c4dcafe.com/ipb/public/style_emoticons/default/spoton.gif[/img]


Sure glad you like it.
Seems like i was gettin dogged there for a minute just for passin on the free and yet so hansomely powerful render engine.
Though maybe it not yet that mature for production purposes, but hey its free and way better then most render engines by far.
And...............very little set up if any is needed in most cases.
Yes.....Varay, final render and and a few other i do have exccess to. but its always weird i find myself be going for Cindigo most of the time instead of the others for its ease of use.
don't mind waiting 15 min for something that looks more real then trying to bust my brain over the setting in vray or some other interface with a million different setting that leave you hanging for hours scratching your head and the enormous continuity of test rendering over and over and over again.

Anyway my set up is nothing to cry over these day.

Motherboard: Asus A8N-Sli Deluxe
Video card's: 2x nvidia 6600 GT w/Sli and 512 gpu
AMD Athlon™64 Processer 3500+
4x 1gig low lutancy DDR2 rams
1.2 tera HD in all for sata
460 Regular id HD for the main drive
and a very strong policy against any raid aray or any other ray for backup, I do that manually.
Cheesey three button mouse and rif raf keyboard.
tons of external thats never used.
Oh. tv card by ATI and remote.
Xp pro with out the service pack 3.

guess by todays standards this would be a prehistoric fly since it was built a year and a half ago.

#85 mrkucz

mrkucz
  • Regular Member
  • 1,133 posts
  • Location: Swanton, Ohio

Posted 09 August 2008 - 07:22 PM

Oh yeah....the render quality is how ever long you can stand to waite for some very nice results to appear.
Remember....the renderer never stop until you close it.
it auto saves every 20 or 30 seconds.
Gallery speaks for it's. also I've been on there forums and most of there renders take less time to get better results then a lot of other renderer's.
for instance. you here some saying that there scenes take 10 hours to render.
or all night. or something like that.
it's some what the same if not shorter time or when ever you stop the render when you think good is good.

#86 megacal

megacal

    C4D Jedi wanna-be

  • Regular Member
  • 379 posts
  • Location: Escondido, Ca, USA

Posted 11 August 2008 - 07:16 AM

"Seems like i was gettin dogged there for a minute just for passin
on the free and yet so hansomely powerful render engine.
And...............very little set up if any is needed in most cases."

I didn't even know it existed till you mentioned it....it definitely looks like a winner.
I un-loaded Maxwell.....just too much to learn, although I'm sure it works for some.

"Yes.....Varay, final render and and a few other i do have exccess to.
but its always weird i find myself be going for Cindigo most of the time instead of the others
for its ease of use. don't mind waiting 15 min for something that looks more real then trying
to bust my brain over the setting in vray or some other interface with a million different setting
that leave you hanging for hours scratching your head and the enormous continuity of test rendering
over and over and over again."

Exactly! It's good to have choices, but it shouldn't be to the extent you get
a migraine trying to sort it out. This looks much more user-friendly as well as being very powerful.

"Anyway my set up is nothing to cry over these day."
Dude, it's waaaay better than my little HP6226! (2gb ram, generic video card, Vista).
But it handles everything very well.....just relatively slow to render. But I'm not doing
anything very complex yet, either. Down the road I'll upgrade.

As for Cindigo, I'll just set a timer, or let it go overnight if necessary.
Thanks for letting us know about it!
[img]http://www.c4dcafe.com/ipb/public/style_emoticons/default/thumb_yello.gif[/img]
The fun has begun! =)

#87 Anthony Owen

Anthony Owen

    Oldest Member

  • Regular Member
  • 3,293 posts
  • C4D Version:12 Prime
  • Location: Humboldt County

Posted 11 August 2008 - 10:32 AM

Does anyone know if you must use Indigo materials (I see a collection on their site)?
Win 7, 8 core PC with 12 Gb RAM 64 Bit

#88 mrkucz

mrkucz
  • Regular Member
  • 1,133 posts
  • Location: Swanton, Ohio

Posted 11 August 2008 - 03:16 PM

No.....
But you do have to convert the material like you would in vray.
It basically make a copy of your material under a null object and adds the Cindigo material tag to it.
You can save out materials with a rendered preview of what the material is in the indigo material library.

#89 megacal

megacal

    C4D Jedi wanna-be

  • Regular Member
  • 379 posts
  • Location: Escondido, Ca, USA

Posted 11 August 2008 - 04:29 PM

Here's a page at the Indigo Wiki that has a good sampling of
what you can do with it.....everything I asked for at the
beggining of this thread. :)

It will probably do it for me until I get AR. I want to support MAXON but this is
an offer I can't refuse.
The fun has begun! =)

#90 megacal

megacal

    C4D Jedi wanna-be

  • Regular Member
  • 379 posts
  • Location: Escondido, Ca, USA

Posted 21 August 2008 - 01:01 AM

...just an update....

Tried Indigo.....great renders (see gallery) but not easy or fast.
Not much info or tutorials available.....the manual is all command line stuff (shudder)
and doesn't explain how to use the commands.

Decided to go for R11 & AR3. It's a stretch financially, but I think
it's the best combo for the money, and hopefully will pay for itself
down the road.

[img]http://www.c4dcafe.com/ipb/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif[/img]
The fun has begun! =)




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users