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Fabian Humphry

No more quicktime :( Codec help needed!

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Hi all,

(First post, hello everybody, I'm new here! And yes, that's a dog in my profile photo)

 

The loss of support for Quicktime export options in C4D has me hitting a roadblock that I was hoping someone could offer some advice on. I am on Windows 10, running R19.

 

My workflow has always been to render out video files as my final render (not image sequences, I know, I know, it's rookie and bad practice). There are various reasons why I don't like image sequences - in essence single video files are a much more efficient workflow for my particular needs of high volume, quick renders, where folder management quickly gets out of hand. I would be happy to explain more, but this is not really the point.

 

I have resorted to rendering in the only half-decent video codec available in the render options on Windows: AVI with Intel IYUV compressor. It's big, not terribly efficient, and outdated. 

Prior to the loss of Quicktime, I would render out a single .mov compressed with Gopro Cineform or DNxHD which I both really enjoyed working with.

 

SO the big question: Is there ANY way to directly render out a video compressed with Gopro Cineform codec, if I am running Windows and R19? I believe that the AVI container does support this(?), but I have tried installing the Cineform codec with no luck.

Is there ANY other way to render a decent video codec on Windows 10? I will happily use Quicktime Animation - anything better than AVI IYUV will do. Beggars can't be choosers, and I'm going begging.

Perhaps I need to manually dive into the "standard" AVI compressors that come stock with Windows 10 and add in my own ones. Is this even possible?

 

I am desperate - will install 3rd party plugins if necessary (yes, it's that bad)

 

Thanking you in advance,

 

Fabian.

 

 

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From information I have, any codec that supports windows media service will be automatically offered in Cinema.  So I believe you will have to see if the codec you intend to use uses windows media services...

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  • 32 minutes ago, HSrdelic said:

    From information I have, any codec that supports windows media service will be automatically offered in Cinema.  So I believe you will have to see if the codec you intend to use uses windows media services...

    Thank you for your response!

     

    Right, that makes sense. So I googled "windows media codec pack" and the latest download I could find on Microsoft's website was from 2004, and of course did not install on Windows 10. I downloaded and installed a decent looking 3rd party one from https://www.mediaplayercodecpack.com/.

    It even said something about "Lagairth" when installing which sounded good. However, no options have changed when rendering out AVI:image.thumb.png.bf8635ea2d5f79a36f4680b2baff607a.png

     

    Does anyone know how to add codecs to the windows media service? 

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    afaik lagarith is loseless codec. Sorry to say that I don't know more about this to really assist you. I presume you have to find the Win 10 version of the codec or use another compatible codec.

    At the end, you really might want to consider working with image sequences because they are much more flexible :)

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    You could try importing your .c4d project file into After Effects and render with CineWare.  Then you could choose whatever codecs you have available in AE.  Otherwise, you could use Media Encoder or something similar to convert your image sequences into .mov and then just delete the image sequences.

    I do understand that image sequences can be a pain to manage, especially for quick renders.

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    H.265 might be a good option if you can get it working.

     

    12 hours ago, HSrdelic said:

    From information I have, any codec that supports windows media service will be automatically offered in Cinema.  So I believe you will have to see if the codec you intend to use uses windows media services...

    I can play H.265 videos with Windows Media Player, but I don't see the option to use it in C4D.  Using windows 10 here.  Is there maybe a step we are missing to get codecs to show up?

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    If you go down the image sequence > After Effects > Media Encoder route, ME has a ton of presets including GoPro Cineform

     

    gopro.thumb.png.f32acdeb986f20e37146019d36ea261b.png

     

    which seems to output Quicktime mov

     

    mov.thumb.png.cd7095ae5e6fe7a2ed0f2ed2eb81b9fa.png

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  • @Fastbee - I managed to install lagarith and it's working within the AVI bucket. I am pretty happy with the codec, and I highly recommend it over H.265 if you are using as final render files. I am no codec expert but seems comparable to cineform/DNxHD. Miles ahead of the other AVI codecs. Just search for the lagarith installer on Google (not a generalist codec pack). Disaster averted.

     

    HOWEVER - I am unable to get the Alpha layer to export with AVI lagarith (I have checked alpha tickbox under settings, and have of course selected RGBA under the codec settings. One in 10 of my renders need transparency and I am still rendering those as image sequences which is annoying. Does anyone have any ideas? See picture below. I am pretty sure I am not making any "silly mistakes" with settings as when I switch to PNG it works with alpha.

     

    image.thumb.png.938e5395c1c99ab2c98181a9ef18af41.png

     

    @jed & Nate - Thanks for the ideas, smart. May use this for the alpha animations.

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