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What about some explosions?

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With some niche plugins and other features you'd like to see in C4D I'd say "be careful what you wish for".

 

If MAXON were to add explosions/fluids/etc they'd probably be pretty good and have some nice features and integration...but likely not really be as advanced like the current 3rd party options. And then the third-party options would die off or never be created in the first place because the feature was already in C4D so far fewer people would potentially buy their product. And when MAXON does add some big new feature they seem to just leave it as it was first released for years or decades (BodyPaint), with only minor incremental changes. So, we'd soon have an out-of-date explosion/fluid system and no third-party options. This would hurt C4D in the long run...really bad.

 

As for cost of XP/etc...yes $600 (or whatever) is a big investment. But if you are a professional you need to invest in your business, and should be able to offset the costs of running your business with the work you can do because of the investment (that is how business works). I have a landscaper friend who laughs at how cheap our business is to run compared to what we can earn. He just needed to buy a new Bobcat - he bought a 10-year-old Bobcat for $14,000 that will take him years to pay off. You could easily pay off XP in a single job.

 

If you need explosions consider XP - their team works really hard to make a great product that adds major capabilities to C4D that allows alot of other people to earn more money.

 

 

 

 

 

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  • You got several points there, Mike. I must agree with you in all those aspects.

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    XP could be included in C4D. We all win with that. I bet one in one hundred C4D users have XP. If so, for 100 users XP cost only 6 euros more in a C4D rent, upgrade or buy.

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    That was a really good way to put things... but I'll bet I am forget something in my math...

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    Cheers, @mikeh

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    João Marco

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    3 minutes ago, jmarco said:

    You got several points there, Mike. I must agree with you in all those aspects.

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    XP could be included in C4D. We all win with that. I bet one in one hundred C4D users have XP. If so, for 100 users XP cost only 6 euros more in a C4D rent, upgrade or buy.

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    That was a really good way to put things... but I'll bet I am forget something in my math...

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    Cheers.

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    João Marco

    I'm willing to bet a LOT more than 1% of C4D users have XP!  I'd be curious to know the real number, but I'd guess at least 10%.  It's one of the most popular C4D plugins.

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  • @natevplas

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    Yes, I'll agree with that. 10% - 60 euros more in a 3500 euros universe is not a big problem.

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    But, talking about prices, maybe MAXON could made a subscription as SideFX does. Not all of us here, are making lots of money with C4D. Indie version is $399 USD if revenue under $100K USD for a two years rental.

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    I've send a mail asking for something like that in last July. Well, now I've got a better educational license. It's a fine step in a better direction.

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    Cheers.

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    João Marco

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    The only reason Xparticles exist is because MAXON is ignoring liquids, fluids, cloth and particles for over a decade now as they do with BP and uvw Tools. For the price of 3570 Euro C4D is currently way overpriced because it only has half the tools of Maya for example which has working tools like ncloth, Effects, particles and a new UV suite implemented. Even Blender is better in all those areas.

     

    It is not even funny anymore.

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  • I agree. I like c4d for its simplicity. But it starts to Stay behind competition in features and in price politics.

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    It's urgent for MAXON to listen.

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    Houdini just had presentation for what is in 17.5 has some really great things for a .5 update. PDG - Procedural Dependency Graph which in a nutshell parallels, among other things simulations and physics, into one CPU cycle - work flow and pipeline efficiency.  MAXON better start stepping up its game to keep in the eye of FX houses.

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  • Hello, @bobc4d.

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    Well.. I didn't bring H17,5 to this forum, but that's right. Houdini is a fantastic software, with some problems at artist level, but they are working on that too.

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    If topology and UI become more friendly I think most of c4d users will start to learn it. It's too much techology in one program, in the positive way.

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    I've watched the SIDEFX fantastic apresentation, almost as a surprise. So many good news. I wish MAXON could awake up sooner than later.

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    H18 will be even better. In October we will see that, for sure.

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    Cheers.

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    I hope that MAXON starts working more on VFX or I will have to change to Houdini.

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  • @mcdeimon

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    Hola, iberian. :-)

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    Yes, Houdini, must be learned right now if you want to explode something.

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    I it must be C4D's next step. Or they will lose some artists to SideFx I'm sure of that. Blender starts to grow in quality and simplicity, too.

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    C4D are the best software to learn and to achieve great result fast and simple. But Those SideFX guys are not joking. They will capture lots of VFX artists for sure.

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    Cheers.

    João Marco 

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