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16 minutes ago, RichMed said:

I did warn you I'm a noob and it appears I have over committed with this project, I really don't know where to start, its taken almost 4 weeks of blood, sweet  and tears to get to this stage... to put it mildly.

 

Yes, this does rather serve as a warning to new users about the dangers of taking on commercial work when their skills are not yet sufficient. I learned for 5 years before I went commercial for example, until my skills were competent or better in enough areas of the program that I could solve most problems in most areas.

 

It's also kind of unfair to take on paid work without the skills and then to expect cafe members to give you the answers on a deadline basis, using phrases like URGENT HELP etc especially if you are not sharing any of the cash for the job. When you undertake paid 3D work, you are selling YOUR SKILLS in the software, and if you don't have them, or enough of them, you are selling smoke at the end of the day, which leads to broken deadlines, angry clients, low quality of work, massive pressure for you, and having to rely on help from others to get you through, which is never good.

 

You are not alone in finding this out - every year tons of people try and run before they can walk, and some will fall over / learn the hard way.
Sometimes the cafe can rescue them in time, sometimes we can't...

 

Perhaps you need a 3D mentor / advisor at this stage, someone who can fix or otherwise address the problems you will run into, and can be on hand to help when it is required. I offer that service for example, but I do charge £60 an hour for it. please do PM me if you'd like to arrange something.

 

CBR

 

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  • 1 minute ago, Cerbera said:

     

    Yes, this does rather serve as a warning to new users about the dangers of taking on commercial work when their skills are not yet sufficient. I learned for 5 years before I went commercial for example, until my skills were sufficient in enough areas of the program that I could solve most problems in most areas.

     

    It's also kind of unfair to take on paid work without the skills and then to expect cafe members to give you the answers on a deadline basis, using phrases like URGENT HELP etc especially if you are not sharing any of the cash for the job. When you undertake paid 3D work, you are selling YOUR SKILLS in the software, and if you don't have them, or enough of them, you are selling smoke at the end of the day, which leads to broken deadlines, angry clients, low quality of work, massive pressure for you, and having to rely on help from others to get you through, which is never good.

     

    You are not alone in finding this out - every years tons of people run before they can walk and learn the hard way. Sometimes the cafe can rescue them in time, sometimes we can't...

     

    Perhaps you need a 3D mentor at this stage, someone who can address the problems you will run into, and can be on hand to help when it is required. I offer that service for example, but I do charge £60 an hour for it. please do PM me if you'd like to arrange something.

     

    CBR

     

    I apologise for my posts, I work in-house for a US based company and have 20+ years experience with graphic design and i volunteered to learn 3D as i was excited to learn and do something new. In theory I won't get paid for this job but obviously i am on a salary so I guess i get paid for my skills, or in this case, lack of.

     

    I have undertaken 2 training courses and produced some static 3D's, probably not perfect but if I don't commit, i wont learn. But my normal 9-5 is doing graphic design with long periods of no 3D so whatever I have learnt, gets lost.

     

    I do not mean to take the 'P' or abuse the cafe or take advantage of anyone especially yourself as you have provided no end of support and for free, it is truly gratefully received.

     

    I will PM you about a 3D mentor, I may work in a company that has over 5,000 staff, but I am the only one who has any knowledge of 3D and as you are finding, that isn't a lot.

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    Ah Ok, that's a slightly different situation, and one in which a lot of people find themselves :) There's certainly no shame in wanting to learn something new, and volunteering to do so within a company is a great idea, with the proviso that you successfully get across to them that it will take you (and anybody) a little time to learn before you get really 'useful' in it, if you see what I mean :)

    Please don't take my previous comments as being aimed directly at you, it's just such a good example of how many problems you and all new guys are likely to encounter as soon as Big Project 1 !

     

    Always happy to help if I can...

     

    CBR

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  • 12 minutes ago, Cerbera said:

    Ah Ok, that's a slightly different situation, and one in which a lot of people find themselves :) There's certainly no shame in wanting to learn something new, and volunteering to do so within a company is a great idea, with the proviso that you successfully get across to them that it will take you (and anybody) a little time to learn before you get really 'useful' in it, if you see what I mean :)

    Please don't take my previous comments as being aimed directly at you, it's just such a good example of how many problems you and all new guys are likely to encounter as soon as Big Project 1 !

     

    Always happy to help if I can...

     

    CBR

    I just tried to PM you but it won't let me, it says "Cerbera cannot receive messages".

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    Ah right, hang on - this is a problem that happened with quotas after the recent forum upgrade. I'll see what I can do about that...

     

    CBR

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    Should be fine now, do please try again ! :)

     

    CBR

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  • 2 minutes ago, Cerbera said:

    Should be fine now, do please try again ! :)

     

    CBR

    It worked, thanks.

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