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Hey everyone, 

 

A die-hard Mac user here. I've been with macOS for more than 10 years now and never ever thought of switching back to Windows. Until recently. I'm currently shopping for a new laptop, to be able to edit video and use C4d on the go and in all honesty I find all the latest macbooks pro quite disappointing in terms of price/specs ratio. It physically hurts to splash 2 grand on a macbook and get a semi-decent performance. Yeah, it looks and feels dope, I agree. But not for professionals in the field, more like for average consumers who shop the looks and not looking to edit 4k video in Premier. 

 

So this Huawei Mate Pro X guy is all over the place now, with headlines such as "Macbook Killer" and "This is a Macbook for Windows" and so on and so forth. After quite a thorough research I must admit it really deserves the all the hype and considering its price tag - definitely the one to consider. 

 

But here comes the good ol' friend Windows...

 

Or how I used to call it: Mr Blue Screen

Mr. Too Many .DLL files and if you delete one by accident -everything gets f.cked.

Mr. I literally accept all the viruses without dress code... please come in, don't even bother to take the shoes off...

 

Ok, dad jokes aside.

 

My question is, is Windows 10 Home or Professional any stable for our type of work in 2019? Is it something I can rely on while working on a processor chugging scene in C4d without being afraid to see the beautiful ERROR message pop up accompanied by the most ear-pleasing sound ever. Or should I ditch this idea and stick with macOS and keep wasting money that are so hard to earn these days?

 

Many thanks for all the feedback!

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11 minutes ago, Jennifer said:

My question is, is Windows 10 Home or Professional any stable for our type of work in 2019? Is it something I can rely on while working on a processor chugging scene in C4d without being afraid to see the beautiful ERROR message pop up accompanied by the most ear-pleasing sound ever. Or should I ditch this idea and stick with macOS and keep wasting money that are so hard to earn these days? 

I was a Mac user for 15 years but got tired of paying the premium for substandard specs and the locked eco system, not being able to upgrade, expensive repairs etc.  No Nvidia support eventually killed it for me.  I thought about switching for a while and was fortunate enough to have a contract where all the in-house machines were Windows 10 pro so I could try before I bought.  The short answer is yes.  It is definitely stable enough (for me more-so than my macbook pro) and way more powerful in that you can tweak your machine to your liking.   There's a bit of a learning curve but you ultimately have more control over the hardware and OS.  It also opens up all the CUDA acceleration and other renderers like Redshift that are Nvidia only.

 

I'm not sure about the Huawei as a replacement though.  It seems like support and repair could be an issue.  I know a lot of people in the industry use XPS or Lenovo.  You might want to factor them into your decision if you go windows.

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  • Great, thanks for your feedback. As you have mentioned, the built-in Nvidia is a total game changer when it comes to working with Redshift or Octane. 

     

    What about those nasty viruses, is it still an issue like it used to be ages ago with Windows XP? 

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    29 minutes ago, Jennifer said:

    What about those nasty viruses, is it still an issue like it used to be ages ago with Windows XP? 

    There is still the risk of those, but not really if you take proper precautions (always do windows updates as soon as you get them, virus checker etc + Windows has Defender built in now.)

     

    CBR

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    I've been working on Windows for my entire life now and about 6 years professionally now. Yes, it is stable enough. It has been since Windows 7. Yes, you can still get viruses but if you use your common sense and don't click suspicious links in viagra spam mails you will be fine. I'm not even using an external anti-virus-software anymore. Windows Defender, Firefox / Chrome, uBlock Origins & NoScript is all you need.

     

    At this point a Mac doesn't give you any benefits that would justify the price tag at all. Windows is more open, has better support both in software and hardware, is cheaper to repair and upgrade.

     

    Also: Bluescreens don't happen anymore unless you have some serious driver / hardware issues.

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  • 2 minutes ago, DasFrodo said:

    I've been working on Windows for my entire life now and about 6 years professionally now. Yes, it is stable enough. It has been since Windows 7. Yes, you can still get viruses but if you use your common sense and don't click suspicious links in viagra spam mails you will be fine. I'm not even using an external anti-virus-software anymore. Windows Defender, Firefox / Chrome, uBlock Origins & NoScript is all you need.

     

    At this point a Mac doesn't give you any benefits that would justify the price tag at all. Windows is more open, has better support both in software and hardware, is cheaper to repair and upgrade.

     

    Also: Bluescreens don't happen anymore unless you have some serious driver / hardware issues.

    So no more Norton and Kaspersky - I remember it took me an hour to launch the machine, after all the "virus scans" were done ;)))))

     

    Would you go as far as saying that Microsoft has stepped their game up ever since Windows XP?

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    Windows Defender or Avast Free with Malwarebytes free keeps me virus free.

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    13 minutes ago, Jennifer said:

    So no more Norton and Kaspersky

    You can do, but no longer essential. Except Norton - that has never caused anything but problems and should have been put in the bin as soon as they saw what they had done when they first made it !! :/ Back when I was a PC tech we used to call it Norton Sh*tFactory. It missed nearly every important virus, falsely flagged a lot of your legitimate programs as evil and stopped you accessing them, and irreparably re-wrote your system settings in way that was almost guaranteed to break them long-term. A truly stunning bit of software !

     

    CBR

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    There's also the Hackintosh option, running macOS on a custom computer. That's not that easy to setup though and less stable than a real Mac.

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    About crashes, I will just say - my Win 10 PC has never crashed. Cinema has a few times, but never Windows.

     

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    A post that piques my interest as I'm potentially heading the same way. I've been a Mac user for the past couple of decades, mainly through using them at work and the three personal machines I have bought in the past 16 years – a G4 tower, an iMac and currently on a 2015 MBP – I have purchased because Mac was all I knew, and I've only really got heavily into 3d the past couple of years, so after I got the MBP. I've only become acutely aware of the limitations of the Mac since progressing from purely modelling in Cinema to actually experimenting with rendering, bigger scenes etc.

    As my MacBook is four years old but very well looked after – nothing ever stored on desktop, regularly cleaned up etc – it will inevitably begin to encounter issues, especially battery. And this year Apple will definitely reveal machines they perceive will be integral to the future of the creative industry according to Apple. Wild speculation abounds, and for what it's worth I think they will take the fact most Mac users use Cinema 4d, and have developed a processor that will then run a future renderer that is either produced by them or in conjunction with MAXON. So they can ringfence some market share of the consumer 3d industry. Just a hunch. Now that would be a game changer but, BUT, because it's Apple, the manufacturers of a phone that cost more than £1000, and released an iMac Pro that cost way over £10,000 – I've used one and it was no different to a 5k iMac costing £4000 – whatever comes next will come at a big price. An Apple kind of price. And no matter how good it possibly could be, if it's not open to a variety of third party renderers and software, I just don't see people migrating to / sticking with Apple. I'm waiting to see what happens, but I already have a quote for a custom build that would annhillate a Mac and all for a squeeze under £2.5k, I pretty much know what my next move is gonna be...

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    I use both PC and Mac every day and have for many years. The deficiencies of Windows and the superiority of Macs are wildly exaggerated.  If you can navigate the complexities of C4D and the multiple layers of abstraction required to finish a 3D project, you should be able to easily handle the migration to Windows and enjoy the vastly superior hardware value and flexibility.

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