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MAXON & REDSHIFT TOGETHER

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My guess is that it will stay as a separately purchased plugin - just as it is now, just with an even better level of integration.

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MAXON goes from having one of the slowest render engines in the market to the current fastest non real time render engine on the market.  This is a great move.  Very happy that Autodesk did buy it.  It is very surprising as they have not bought anything since thinking particles.  I hope this means Prorender is dead for good and never mentioned again or have anymore development time wasted on it.

 

For those wondering what this means.  After reading the offical MAXON site nothing is changing for now except tight integration with C4D.  Even the Blender plugin is said to still be coming out.  It makes sense to do this as it would be dumb to stop money coming in from the sales of Redshift for other softwares.  Less money being earned from sales is less money.  They like making money.

 

Better integration with C4D should mean Redshift works perfectly with all nodes and procedural materials in C4D, nodes, the sky object, scenes made with c4d mats, and everything.  Redshift also talked about a realtime version which might now become an option for the viewport.  C4D should have their code open enough so any render engine could insert code X to have all the procedurals working with any render engine.  It's really sad they don't have the code working in that way.  The nodes are cool, but unusable for anyone using a 3rd party render engine.  With nothing really changing, but Redshift being better integrated, having C4D say they made it so the procedurals and nodes work with any render engine exactly like they do with the built in C4D render engines would be a bigger announcement than them buying Redshift.

 

What I think might be possible with MAXON buying Redshift is a deal for people that buy R21 and a deal for people that want to get Redshift.  Owning Redshift means they get to decide the price.  They could give it away for free to everyone that has C4D with a version that only includes the C4D plugin.  I hope they figure out something good.  On their site they do say "The MAXON Service Agreement currently covers existing license of Cinema 4D. Redshift is a new MAXON product and not included in existing MSAs."  Bad news for people current MSAs.  It does mean they are thinking of having a MSA where Redshift was included.

 

For those that don't know Redshift it is currently the fastest render engine with professional photo quality results.  Redshifts speed, quality, light bounces are way better than Arnold render.

 

Exciting things are coming in future versions of Redshift as well.  They have announced a toon system, RTX support for faster rendering for those with RTX cards, using Nvidia new shared memory in the newer Nvidia cards like RTX 2080, 2080 ti, and RTX Titan so 2 cards can combined their memory, 2x8GB cards would show 16GB of memory for rendering,  and perhaps the one I'm most excited for is real time rendering.  They didn't go in depth into what real time rendering means for Redshift, but with the hardware of the Nvidia RTX cards I'd guess it means a rasterizer combined with real time raytracing to give a photo quality render with GI using video game technology in milliseconds instead of minutes or hours.

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Wow!  this is HUGE news.  Although Im not doing CG at the moment I had to come on here and say a huge congrats to MAXON.  This is a very smart and good move.  I had purchased Redshift as a alternative to Vray due to its licence changes and think Redshift is by far the fastest render engine iv ever used even on old hardware.  Things are look positive for MAXON more than ever and think MAXON are heading in a good direction.

 

Dan

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Interesting move by MAXON. Gets in the way of AutoDesk. Good news for Cinema4D as well as a whole - ProRender isn't quite the solution they (I think) were hoping for.

 

My Spider Senses are tingling though: might this be another step to woo Adobe and prepare C4D for its inclusion into Adobe's fold? Probably just paranoia speaking, but lately so many mergers and buyouts are happening. 

 

Addendum: Substance + C4D + RedShift + AfterFX + Adobe cloud services = jackpot

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  • 19 minutes ago, hvanderwegen said:

    Addendum: Substance + C4D + RedShift + AfterFX + Adobe cloud services = jackpot

    Damn, sounds legit. :compEnjoy:


    | MAXON Quality Assurance Specialist | 3D Asset Creator | C4D Cafe Manager |

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    22 minutes ago, Igor said:

    Damn, sounds legit. :compEnjoy:

    Oh that's depressing.  Please say it ain't so.  I really don't want to pay monthly for using C4D nor do I want to pay an inflated monthly fee for access to an Adobe suite of products if all I want to do is use C4D.  As a hobbyist, I only have enough time to learn (and therefore use) C4D....all the other stuff would be wasted on me.

     

    What a buzz kill to my Redshift excitement.

     

    Dave

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    1 hour ago, hvanderwegen said:

    My Spider Senses are tingling though: might this be another step to woo Adobe and prepare C4D for its inclusion into Adobe's fold? Probably just paranoia speaking, but lately so many mergers and buyouts are happening.

    I was thinking the same thing.  MAXON buying anything is so uncharacteristic that it points to Adobe already having an agreement to buy C4D.  Can someone do a track on where the money came from to buy Redshift?

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    12 minutes ago, Fastbee said:

    I was thinking the same thing.  MAXON buying anything is so uncharacteristic that it points to Adobe already having an agreement to buy C4D.  Can someone do a track on where the money came from to buy Redshift?

    A couple presentations today focused on after effects + redshift + c4d so.... The plot thickens

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    From what I was read on MAXON website, for me as c4d studio user is nothing changed...

    Do you want Redshift? Buy it...Do you want Vray, Arnold,Thea or another renderer? Simply buy it... Same as current state, nothing changed.

     

    Only benefit I see is for MAXON /as company, not for users/. What means words like "close integration" ?

    If Redshift stay working "solo", integration will not be good enough? If intergration "currently" isn´t good/production ready,  nobody were bought Redshift, it´s simple...

    For me it looks like MAXON only want to "ensure/secure" good renderer for the future. Simply was faster then other companies.

     

    It reminds me situation from the past, when we could bought moduls separately. This way I was also upgraded from "core" renderer to AR...

     

    ... but that's just my personal opinion  

     

     

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    18 minutes ago, Fastbee said:

    I was thinking the same thing.  MAXON buying anything is so uncharacteristic that it points to Adobe already having an agreement to buy C4D.  Can someone do a track on where the money came from to buy Redshift?

    ...Yes, answer to your last question could be very interesting...

     /but I hope you do not expect somebody competent will answer you / ;-)

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