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1 hour ago, 3D-Pangel said:

P.S. So exactly how improved is that Blender interface?

Training series here:

1 hour ago, 3D-Pangel said:

 

 

 

 

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I actually don’t mind the subscription. In fact it may save money. I would have to pay for MSA every year to keep current even if I didn’t think the upgrade was worth it because skipping an upgrade was more expensive. Now I can keep my perpetual and skip the upgrade until one is worth while 2 maybe 3 years from now then switch to the subscription but I will always have R20 to fall back on. If I want to take a pause from the subscription and then pick it back up if needed.

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I appreciate Rick's responses here. Thank you.

 

Pixliatednoise - it does feel more flexible for a guy in your position, as you could start your sub once a few more key features had dropped or the newer features became important to you.

 

Hey someone just dropped an F-bomb on the Siggraph live stream! It's during the video of the guys building a Photoshop mountain of Paul Babb's head. It's funny stuff.

 

Foundry thread on the R21 pricing announcement. Some now keen to jump over to C4D, and a couple of saltier responses. But generally they're arguing that the initiative will put pressure on the Foundry to drop Modo pricing.

 

https://community.foundry.com/discuss/topic/148432/c4d-r21-annual-subscription-fully-featured-less-than-720-00

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5 hours ago, prowl said:

 

 

Volumes Dude.  Its amazing.  

 

Or the plugin Meshboolean is really good if you don't like the volume mesh output. 

 

No, the MeshBoolean Plugin and Nitro4Ds BoxModel Plugin also use the C4D internal Boolean technology, there's no improvement there.

 

I agree with renegade, a Boolean rework would have to be done / expected in R20 or R21.

 

While OpenVDB Modeling is great (and SubD modeling of course), Booleans can be a good solution in some cases and a redesigned Boolean algorithm would also make it easier for those plugins. Look at BoxCutter or HardOps in Blender!

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Bought into C4D at R10 (+ ALL Modules—MoGraph and other features were separate, then). Have, also, invested a large amount in [MAXON-related] training (3D Fluff, BW Design, C4DCafe, C4D.cz [Pavel Zoch], cmiVFX, fxphd, Greyscalegorilla, helloLUXX [Tim Clapham, etc], Motionworks, Vertex Pusher [Hrvoje Srdelic]) and plug-ins (CinemaPlugins [Paul Everett], Greyscalegorilla, Holger Biebrach, Insydium [X-Particles & Cycles 4D], Next Limit, etc).

 

MSA is current and I will receive R21. But, I don't know that I will even install it. (Just feeling really frustrated by the current news.)

 

May get out of 3D, altogether, at this point, and continue on as a full-stack web developer. (Or, maybe I'll give Blender a shot.) Most / all (creative) software that I have invested into is going the way of subscription—and I don't like it.

 

Obviously, MAXON is free to do what they want. I was just hoping they would be the exception. Don't see how their new offerings benefit me AT ALL. :sad:

 

R10 w ALL Modules, Studio R12, Studio R13, Studio R14, Studio R15, Studio R16, Studio R17, Studio R18, Studio R19, Studio R20, [R21]

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3 hours ago, BoganTW said:

Hey someone just dropped an F-bomb on the Siggraph live stream! It's during the video of the guys building a Photoshop mountain of Paul Babb's head. It's funny stuff.

 

Yeah. That was happening just as I had pulled up this forum and hadn't realized the stream was playing (from YouTube), at the bottom of the page.

 

I thought, "Which of my 100 [browser] tabs is playing audio? I'm not watching anything! Couldn't be the Siggraph live stream! They wouldn't use language like that." :confused::ohmy: (It was beeple / Mike Winkelmann.)

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This Siggraph livestream is hilarious.

 

David Brodeur is scrolling through negative instagram comments he's received and is reading them aloud. They're all appearing onscreen. And the user names are blocked out, but he's left the f-bombs intact onscreen, so he reads "Someone has written 'W-T-F is this?'. And then he scrolls past a bunch of comments where the f-bombs are fully spelled out on screen, and just comically glosses over them. 

 

I've watched two minutes tops of the livestream while doing other stuff and both of them has been full of f-bombs. My ears are blushing red now.

 

Maybe someone who only uses the new R21 features two or three times a year can just subscribe for a month in each instance and then let it lapse and slide back to R20, if that's what they use. I dunno. That sounds like it'd be cheaper than what they were paying beforehand.

 

 

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I don't even feel like watching this year...Some of the magic is gone I guess...I always took pride in choosing C4D over maya/max 10 years ago. The program was different, the company as well. The users were kind of like cool outcasts. 

There was also a sense of genuineness in MAXON but the new CEO's latest presentation was so full of marketing BS that I came to realize this era is now over. 

The program is still damn cool but the love factor is gone. 

 

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18 hours ago, Hrvoje said:

4. Bundling all editions into one version is huge benefit. This coupled with online shop, online help, online delivery simply leads to more development time for features

 


You can call it "bundling editions", or you could call it "scrapping all the more affordable versions of C4D for those who didn't need Studio".
And they already had online delivery for several years now.
I hope they can figure out some indie-license scheme at some point. Let's see how Autodesk fares with that.

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