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The 14-day connection is primarily to enable users - perpetual or subscription - to switch between systems where Cinema 4D is activated. You can remotely sign-out of a system in order to grab its license. To make that work the signed out system needs to connect periodically to know it's signed out.

 

The 3 year retirement clause is about download and support. It's necessary to limit the resources we have to put into older releases and also to manage possible changes in terms for licensed technology. 

 

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17 minutes ago, RBarrett said:

The 3 year retirement clause is about download and support. It's necessary to limit the resources we have to put into older releases and also to manage possible changes in terms for licensed technology. 

 

Thank you. So while the support may go away in 3 years, if I've chosen to continue to use a perpetual version there is no longer support for, I will be able to?

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Just now, Unstable said:

Thank you. So while the support may go away in 3 years, if I've chosen to continue to use a perpetual version there is no longer support for, I will be able to?

 

Yep - though I'm confident we'll be able to deliver features in the next 3 years that you won't be able to resist. 

 

 

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That’s reassuring to hear, I asked earlier about the installation file for my theoretical post 3 year install, will I be able to have those for when it drops off your system?

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2 minutes ago, Craig Maret said:

That’s reassuring to hear, I asked earlier about the installation file for my theoretical post 3 year install, will I be able to have those for when it drops off your system?

 

Like I said earlier - there's a 'full' installer that includes all the necessary files. You'll be able to download that once R21 is live in September.

 

 

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50 minutes ago, RBarrett said:

The 14-day connection is primarily to enable users - perpetual or subscription - to switch between systems where Cinema 4D is activated. You can remotely sign-out of a system in order to grab its license. To make that work the signed out system needs to connect periodically to know it's signed out.

 

The 3 year retirement clause is about download and support. It's necessary to limit the resources we have to put into older releases and also to manage possible changes in terms for licensed technology. 

 

 

Hi Rick!

what is wrong with the current licensing system? I have C4D installed on my PC and laptop. No hassle at all. Why did you have to change that? Why do you feel the need to control and "punish" your paying customers? You won't prevent piracy. That is for sure. I am just disappointed by your new business strategy, the direction MAXON is heading the lack-luster R21 release on top of that. R21 will be my last version as I am slowly switching to Blender and Houdini/Solaris.

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43 minutes ago, RBarrett said:

 

Yep - though I'm confident we'll be able to deliver features in the next 3 years that you won't be able to resist. 

 

 

 

Hi Rick, I don't think it's the tease of new features (which of course we all want) I think it's more being able to get at older configurations. There are many older plugins that are great but only work in r16 or some other old version. Fact is, we have to have r19 available just to open older files from before r12. So we'll always need r19 lurking around. The new "whole world" mass appeal user may never use all the crazy add-ons that are available - and that's great for them. But I think Dave & Co really didn't consider the long-time, hardcore studio user who is actually making the bulk of what is being shown in the commercial space. Can that need be communicated - will they listen you (and us) on this point? Just have an archive that is "unsupported" for the known unknown.

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1 hour ago, renegade said:

Hi Rick, I don't think it's the tease of new features (which of course we all want) I think it's more being able to get at older configurations. There are many older plugins that are great but only work in r16 or some other old version. Fact is, we have to have r19 available just to open older files from before r12. So we'll always need r19 lurking around. The new "whole world" mass appeal user may never use all the crazy add-ons that are available - and that's great for them. But I think Dave & Co really didn't consider the long-time, hardcore studio user who is actually making the bulk of what is being shown in the commercial space. Can that need be communicated - will they listen you (and us) on this point? Just have an archive that is "unsupported" for the known unknown.

 

I hope we'll get to a point of less fragmentation - we've just eliminated the differences caused by the editions and I'll be working with both customers and partners to try to achieve faster updates . We'll also be trying hard not to change the file format again (it's worth noting that it's changed once in 20 years, and even then it's still backwards-compatible 8 releases). By the way, if you haven't done so already I recommend grabbing the Scene Updater from MAXON Labs that makes it easy to bulk-convert your pre-R12 scenes in R19. 

 

We know there's always short-term compatibility issues and it's helpful to keep projects in a specific release, which is why we plan to maintain access to older versions. We may have to retire releases more than 3 years old from time to time for practicality reasons or situations outside our control, but as anyone who's contacted our tech department knows they go above and beyond to help our customers when they get into a bind.

 

 

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4 hours ago, RBarrett said:

The 14-day connection is primarily to enable users - perpetual or subscription - to switch between systems where Cinema 4D is activated. You can remotely sign-out of a system in order to grab its license. To make that work the signed out system needs to connect periodically to know it's signed out.

 

The 3 year retirement clause is about download and support. It's necessary to limit the resources we have to put into older releases and also to manage possible changes in terms for licensed technology. 

 

Rick,

 

another question.  in the past, if I recall correctly, we could install C4D on a thumb drive.  can that still be done with R21?

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