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6 minutes ago, Unstable said:

 

One major thing about continuing with a perpetual license is that you don't get any upgrades or cinevirsty, which only comes with subscription licensing. I don't like this.

So my understanding is this:  R21 will be the last perpetual license you can own and only because they need to transition MSA owners over the next year to the subscription model.   The web-site has this rather ambiguous statement:

 

"Some future Cinema 4D upgrades may be available only to subscription customers, while others may be available as perpetual licenses at upgrade pricing. 

 

I read this in the context of this transition year only.  So can someone please confirm this for me?

 

Please answer this simple question:  If I get an R21 perpetual license, what are my options for getting R22?  Will it be by subscription only or can I again upgrade my R21 perpetual license to a perpetual licenese for R22?

 

If the answer is all future versions beyond R21 will  be available ONLY by subscription, then subscriptions are inevitable....unless of course you want to purchase a perpetual license at full cost.  Therefore, my plan would be to get R21 and Redshift perpetual license this year because then at least I have the latest update I can get should I decide NOT to follow the subscription plan in future years.  

 

So can someone from MAXON please answer this question?

 

Dave

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3 minutes ago, BoganTW said:

I don’t use them much but for those discussing UV’s, this is on the website.

 

Cinema 4D Release 21 lays the groundwork for future UV enhancements, with an improved Texture / UV view that’s anti-aliased and faster. With the new UV Transform Tool you can modify UV points and polygons easily – tweaking position, rotation, scale, skew and distortion of entire UV sections easily. Further enhancements include a UV ruler display, option for quantized UV transformations and snapping support for UV points and edges.

So can whole UV point selections be snapped as a whole to other UV point selections?   That would be a huge improvement.

 

Dave

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20 minutes ago, Unstable said:

One major thing about continuing with a perpetual license is that you don't get any upgrades or cinevirsty, which only comes with subscription licensing. I don't like this.

 

If I'm not wrong, you still get fix updates, but not features.


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4 minutes ago, 3D-Pangel said:

So my understanding is this:  R21 will be the last perpetual license you can own and only because they need to transition MSA owners over the next year to the subscription model.   The web-site has this rather ambiguous statement:

 

"Some future Cinema 4D upgrades may be available only to subscription customers, while others may be available as perpetual licenses at upgrade pricing. 

 

I read this in the context of this transition year only.  So can someone please confirm this for me?

 

Please answer this simple question:  If I get an R21 perpetual license, what are my options for getting R22?  Will it be by subscription only or can I again upgrade my R21 perpetual license to a perpetual licenese for R22?

 

If the answer is all future versions beyond R21 will  be available ONLY by subscription, then subscriptions are inevitable....unless of course you want to purchase a perpetual license at full cost.  Therefore, my plan would be to get R21 and Redshift perpetual license this year because then at least I have the latest update I can get should I decide NOT to follow the subscription plan in future years.  

 

So can someone from MAXON please answer this question?

 

Dave

No, R21 is not planned to be the last perpetual license. Due to the legal difference between subscription and perpetual license it can happen that some upgrades will only become immediately available to subscribers. This does not concern bug fixes, which will be made available to subscribers and buyers, technical differences excluded of course.

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For those interested, here's Chris Schmidt going through the new features of R21...

 

https://youtu.be/0Yaceh0tfSg

 

CBR

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2 minutes ago, srek said:

No, R21 is not planned to be the last perpetual license. Due to the legal difference between subscription and perpetual license it can happen that some upgrades will only become immediately available to subscribers. This does not concern bug fixes, which will be made available to subscribers and buyers, technical differences excluded of course.

I know that R21 will not be the last perpetual license.  I am free to purchase a whole NEW license past R21.   What I am concerned about is whether or not I will be allowed to upgrade from an R21 perpetual license to an R22 perpetual license in the US!!

 

Can that question be answered as it has a huge bearing on how I proceed as my MSA expires at the end of August.

 

Dave

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1 minute ago, 3D-Pangel said:

I know that R21 will not be the last perpetual license.  I am free to purchase a whole NEW license past R21.   What I am concerned about is whether or not I will be allowed to upgrade from an R21 perpetual license to an R22 perpetual license in the US!!

 

Can that question be answered as it has a huge bearing on how I proceed as my MSA expires at the end of August.

 

Dave

Afaik there is no plan to not offer upgrades. This is actually a pretty outlandish thought to me, i would be surprised if such an option was ever discussed internally. MAXON has no interest in punishing paying customers.

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3 minutes ago, 3D-Pangel said:

I know that R21 will not be the last perpetual license.  I am free to purchase a whole NEW license past R21.   What I am concerned about is whether or not I will be allowed to upgrade from an R21 perpetual license to an R22 perpetual license in the US!!

 

Can that question be answered as it has a huge bearing on how I proceed as my MSA expires at the end of August.

 

Dave

you are allowed to upgrade, the only thing that is unclear at this point is the cost.

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That's my question as well. Assuming you are able to purchase a perpetual license after R21, will each perpetual license purchase cost the price of a new license or will there be an upgrade price similar to the MSA price?  

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1 minute ago, srek said:

Afaik there is no plan to not offer upgrades. This is actually a pretty outlandish thought to me, i would be surprised if such an option was ever discussed internally. MAXON has no interest in punishing paying customers.

Thank you Srek....that is great to hear. 

 

I will then proceed as I have in the past.  The only thing I lose is access to Cineversity....which hurts a bit.

 

Dave

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1 minute ago, Falstaff said:

That's my question as well. Assuming you are able to purchase a perpetual license after R21, will each perpetual license purchase cost the price of a new license or will there be an upgrade price similar to the MSA price?  

can't imagine they'd make it the price of a new license, that would make no sense.

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