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on the site.

 

"BodyPaint 3D and Cinema 4D Prime, Broadcast, Visualize and Studio editions will be discontinued as of September 1, 2019. All features of BodyPaint 3D and the Cinema 4D editions are included in Cinema 4D R21 and will continue to be developed. If you currently have an active MSA for Cinema 4D Prime, Broadcast, Visualize, Studio or BodyPaint 3D on Sept 1, 2019 you’ll receive a perpetual entitlement to Cinema 4D R21. At any time before the expiration of your current MSA, you can purchase a 2-year Cinema 4D Subscription at a discounted price similar to MSA pricing for your Cinema 4D edition. "

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9 minutes ago, cinomadic said:

@Lumpi

From my understanding, MSAs (depending on when they were last renewed) will get R21 and will be offered a conversion to subscription (losing the perpetual license).

 

One major thing about continuing with a perpetual license is that you don't get any upgrades or cinevirsty, which only comes with subscription licensing. I don't like this.

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Feels like a kick in the teeth as a thank you for spending £3k on their product :(

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I don’t use them much but for those discussing UV’s, this is on the website.

 

Cinema 4D Release 21 lays the groundwork for future UV enhancements, with an improved Texture / UV view that’s anti-aliased and faster. With the new UV Transform Tool you can modify UV points and polygons easily – tweaking position, rotation, scale, skew and distortion of entire UV sections easily. Further enhancements include a UV ruler display, option for quantized UV transformations and snapping support for UV points and edges.

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6 minutes ago, Unstable said:

 

One major thing about continuing with a perpetual license is that you don't get any upgrades or cinevirsty, which only comes with subscription licensing. I don't like this.

So my understanding is this:  R21 will be the last perpetual license you can own and only because they need to transition MSA owners over the next year to the subscription model.   The web-site has this rather ambiguous statement:

 

"Some future Cinema 4D upgrades may be available only to subscription customers, while others may be available as perpetual licenses at upgrade pricing. 

 

I read this in the context of this transition year only.  So can someone please confirm this for me?

 

Please answer this simple question:  If I get an R21 perpetual license, what are my options for getting R22?  Will it be by subscription only or can I again upgrade my R21 perpetual license to a perpetual licenese for R22?

 

If the answer is all future versions beyond R21 will  be available ONLY by subscription, then subscriptions are inevitable....unless of course you want to purchase a perpetual license at full cost.  Therefore, my plan would be to get R21 and Redshift perpetual license this year because then at least I have the latest update I can get should I decide NOT to follow the subscription plan in future years.  

 

So can someone from MAXON please answer this question?

 

Dave

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^^^ This

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3 minutes ago, BoganTW said:

I don’t use them much but for those discussing UV’s, this is on the website.

 

Cinema 4D Release 21 lays the groundwork for future UV enhancements, with an improved Texture / UV view that’s anti-aliased and faster. With the new UV Transform Tool you can modify UV points and polygons easily – tweaking position, rotation, scale, skew and distortion of entire UV sections easily. Further enhancements include a UV ruler display, option for quantized UV transformations and snapping support for UV points and edges.

So can whole UV point selections be snapped as a whole to other UV point selections?   That would be a huge improvement.

 

Dave

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20 minutes ago, Unstable said:

One major thing about continuing with a perpetual license is that you don't get any upgrades or cinevirsty, which only comes with subscription licensing. I don't like this.

 

If I'm not wrong, you still get fix updates, but not features.


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4 minutes ago, 3D-Pangel said:

So my understanding is this:  R21 will be the last perpetual license you can own and only because they need to transition MSA owners over the next year to the subscription model.   The web-site has this rather ambiguous statement:

 

"Some future Cinema 4D upgrades may be available only to subscription customers, while others may be available as perpetual licenses at upgrade pricing. 

 

I read this in the context of this transition year only.  So can someone please confirm this for me?

 

Please answer this simple question:  If I get an R21 perpetual license, what are my options for getting R22?  Will it be by subscription only or can I again upgrade my R21 perpetual license to a perpetual licenese for R22?

 

If the answer is all future versions beyond R21 will  be available ONLY by subscription, then subscriptions are inevitable....unless of course you want to purchase a perpetual license at full cost.  Therefore, my plan would be to get R21 and Redshift perpetual license this year because then at least I have the latest update I can get should I decide NOT to follow the subscription plan in future years.  

 

So can someone from MAXON please answer this question?

 

Dave

No, R21 is not planned to be the last perpetual license. Due to the legal difference between subscription and perpetual license it can happen that some upgrades will only become immediately available to subscribers. This does not concern bug fixes, which will be made available to subscribers and buyers, technical differences excluded of course.

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For those interested, here's Chris Schmidt going through the new features of R21...

 

https://youtu.be/0Yaceh0tfSg

 

CBR

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