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I get that, pretty much goes against the "3d for everyone" motto, right?

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tbh i found that spin of the claim quite cheesy to begin with. while i find it a good move in general to offer additional subscription models and lower the buy in price for perpetual, i would have welcomed it very much if they would have kept the MSA model untouched. or offer a "rent to own" model. i also voiced my opinion in favour of an indie license, like houdini offers for instance. also i find they should have included redshift for free for any c4d customer.

 

all those things would have been good for maxons reputation i believe, and i think it would have resulted in more revenue if you look at the long term effects something like this has on a company. and yet they chose to act otherwise. i'm not defending their actions on that front. although some of the reactions seem a little bit overly dramatic to me, i can understand that people are upset.

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As much as I like C4D as it's the only and first 3D app I know, sure I will give Blender a shoot.

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Well...I read all this, eating popcorn (of course just kiddin')... I think this is the way all the industry is heading not that groundbreaking updates...see Nuke - not that new stuff, you have to pay for maintenance...bug fixing...Autodesk's products....also not that much happening. Maybe the only 3D program with a lot of happening is Blender, it has some new energy. I think Cinema also need some new energy...

 

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17 minutes ago, Nio said:

Well...I read all this, eating popcorn (of course just kiddin')... I think this is the way all the industry is heading not that groundbreaking updates...see Nuke - not that new stuff, you have to pay for maintenance...bug fixing...Autodesk's products....also not that much happening. Maybe the only 3D program with a lot of happening is Blender, it has some new energy. I think Cinema also need some new energy...

 

worth mentioning houdini is also adding new cool stuff constantly and on top of that they offer very affordable indie licenses.

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Yes, I forgot to mention Houdini. Looks great...but I am not sure about artists' perspective when you need to create fast stuff...I am also tired of constantly learning new software...to learn the same thing for example in Blender.

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no doubt c4d is more artist friendly.

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C4D is artist friendly if you don't hit its limitations. Houdini is harder to learn, but I find for me, it generates better artistic output, as it has water, fire, limitless ability to control fine tuning of a model, and an awesome rendering engine.

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So is MAXON not going to release any more videos/information on R21?  My MSA ends in August.  Their treatment and lack of any reasonable deal for MSA studio users to move to subscription along with no new xpresso is making this a real tough decision on whether to renew my MSA or not. 

 

It would be great to get some more information on the node API and all the new SDK stuff for example.

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I still haven't had a chance to try R21 yet, but if the auto weighting algorithm for character rigging is as improved as people are suggesting, then that's worth the price of admission for me on its own. Looking forward to playing with it in September.

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