Jump to content

Sign in to follow this  
Beefdoctor

R21, The good, the bad and the ugly

Recommended Posts

18 minutes ago, Fastbee said:

When I got the trial of R21 lately it basically said by starting the trial I was automatically giving my consent to let MAXON collect info on me and my computer and let them do whatever they please with it.  I won't be able to join at that time so I'm mentioning it here.  I liked C4D because it didn't have this that other big companies had.  Now it's horrible.

 

Previous versions did have the anonymous stats option. Just there was a checkbox to uncheck for opting out from a prompt. It can be changed in some of the preferences. It usually appeared after an installation, but it did pop up at random times in R20 iirc.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Folks, dont forget, health before anything! 🖖 😋


| MAXON Quality Assurance Specialist | 3D Asset Creatior | C4D Cafe Manager | Gamer in Heart | :compEnjoy:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
31 minutes ago, Fastbee said:

When I got the trial of R21 lately it basically said by starting the trial I was automatically giving my consent to let MAXON collect info on me and my computer and let them do whatever they please with it.  I won't be able to join at that time so I'm mentioning it here.  I liked C4D because it didn't have this that other big companies had.  Now it's horrible.

Why would they ever do that, makes no sense? And you can change this here:

 

Screenshot 2019-09-12 at 23.57.42.png


| MAXON Quality Assurance Specialist | 3D Asset Creatior | C4D Cafe Manager | Gamer in Heart | :compEnjoy:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

...maybe record live session and post link to youtube for all whoes missed live broadcasting for future

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Igor said:

Why would they ever do that, makes no sense? And you can change this here:

 

Screenshot 2019-09-12 at 23.57.42.png

 

... you could turn off every option in preferences for communications, but c4d connect to licence servers everytime you open c4d and who knows (from users) what kind of data these are.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Was a good stream! 👍

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • Topic Author
  • 2 hours ago, hobbyist said:

    Was a good stream! 👍

    Thanks buddy, I just hope that I didn't ramble too much, it was really late and I was shooting from the hip. I also really hope that it didn't upset anyone at MAXON, that wasn't the intention, and I know those guys work really hard. The software is still as solid as it ever was, I just think the new sub model is a bit of a turn off for some users. 

    Share this post


    Link to post
    Share on other sites
    8 hours ago, Igor said:

    Why would they ever do that, makes no sense? And you can change this here:

     

    Screenshot 2019-09-12 at 23.57.42.png

    Even if you can turn it off in the settings the fact that you are forced to agree to it means they can legally do whatever they want even if you uncheck the box in the preferences.

     

    Does "Disable" mean you are disabling being anonymous or disabling the Anonymised Application Activity monitor?

    Share this post


    Link to post
    Share on other sites

    Application Activity is completely anonymized. When we introduced this a couple of years ago we went through great lengths to comply to european law and as a result we don't have a clue at all what person is behind the collected data. To the point that if someone would invoke their right of information on stored data we can not comply, since only the user can do this via the Web Data button.

    On the other hand the collected data is an important source of knowledge to us on how Cinema 4D is used. Design and Development rely on this kind of information to do a good job. By allowing us to get this data you are actively helping making Cinema 4D a better application.

    Noone is forced to agree to this data collection, there are no repercussions at all if you switch it off, except maybe that we have a less well defined idea on how we can make Cinema 4D better.

    So thank you to everyone who participates, this is much appreciated!

     

    Share this post


    Link to post
    Share on other sites

    I would have joined had I known it was on, just seen this post today.  Hope it went well.

     

    Dan

    Share this post


    Link to post
    Share on other sites
    1 hour ago, Fastbee said:

    Even if you can turn it off in the settings the fact that you are forced to agree to it means they can legally do whatever they want even if you uncheck the box in the preferences.

     

    Does "Disable" mean you are disabling being anonymous or disabling the Anonymised Application Activity monitor?

    it‘s called DSGVO, which means Datenschutzgrundverordnung ( i know, long word) in german, a relatively new law where EVERY company that collects data of their customer of any kind ( an email address already  is enough) HAS to ask that question and the customer has to give permission. so if MAXON wouldn‘t ask that question, they would be facing serious legal issues. violation fees for companies that big can be quite high, so they would be stupid NOT to ask that question. that law was made to protect the rights of individuals, mainly aiming at big companies like facebook and so on that used their customers data for whatever they wanted without their consent. the problem with this law is, that EVERYONE who runs a business now has to follow those rules, meaning even freelancers had to update their websites and put quite long legal disclaimers and checkboxes on their websites. i hope that clears things up. there’s really nothing MAXON can do about this without breaking the law.

    Share this post


    Link to post
    Share on other sites
    5 hours ago, Beefdoctor said:

    Thanks buddy, I just hope that I didn't ramble too much, it was really late and I was shooting from the hip. I also really hope that it didn't upset anyone at MAXON, that wasn't the intention, and I know those guys work really hard. The software is still as solid as it ever was, I just think the new sub model is a bit of a turn off for some users. 

    It was a good open discussion on the pricing changes, some features and how they might impact different people from differing backgrounds. Much more clarity than trying to scan through posts and tidbits of information on the web. 

     

    Your response to the guy reporting the error only cracked versions get was golden 😂

     

    I was just online for an hour or so of it so unless you went shooting crazy from the hip after that 🤪. I don't think there was anything anyone would be upset about 👍

     

    Will watch the remainder over the weekend!

    Share this post


    Link to post
    Share on other sites

    Join the conversation

    You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

    Guest
    Reply to this topic...

    ×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

      Only 75 emoji are allowed.

    ×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

    ×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

    ×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

    Sign in to follow this  

    • Recently Browsing   0 members

      No registered users viewing this page.

    Latest Topics

    Latest Comments

    ×
    ×
    • Create New...