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4 hours ago, Pinin said:

Blender is free market, the contrary of Marxist socialism where coercion is the paradigm.

 

 

Yeah...right...........

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So Pinin what version of C4D do you have ?

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Don't tell me you are one of those persons that think or just says the concept of profit is only applicable to money...when you as Marxist trade and seek profit on power. over other people current free decisions.

 

I don't have a version of C4D, it was a race between Blender and C4D. I did not tested recent version but since i have to keep my options open and i am interested in medical simulation C4D is,  lets call it at this time "distant option" until i can be very comfortable with Blender. . I still think that C4D has better GUI and the interface is more logical. When i use it i feel at home, it is a bit difficult to explain the reason, it is more emotional, but functionality wise it has too much friction to use after the attractive and first contact. C4D does not flow.

I was stumped by C4D  obnoxious modeling tools  compared to my beloved Softimage XSI. i mean in 2018 i was complaining after testing C4D that when i deleted a polygon the points remained, it seems i had returned to the first years of XX century....then one of the MAXON guys in cgsociety did not see anything wrong with that...a painful exercise with C4D splines followed and that made me wait, not even  3Ds Max level can reach. While the points issue was "fixed" in some later version, other contextual  things got worse and only Redshift which i had contact in Softimage was a positive, but as a plugin to be paid which already existed... For me that did not paid any of Studio the news of renting is attractive than paying a full Studio, but trust essential for continuity and future  so trumps price.   The biggest cost of choosing a software is learning it. It is not price. See, cost like profit is not only about money.

Plus Blender keep getting better. much faster than C4D  Free market in action! Choice.

 

 

 

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1. I am not a Marxist

2. If you do not own or use cinema 4D why are you here berating MAXON and their sales model ?

 

HELP !! HELP !! I'M BEING REPRESSED !!

 

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33 minutes ago, paulselhi said:

1. I am not a Marxist

2. If you do not own or use cinema 4D why are you here berating MAXON and their sales model ?

 

HELP !! HELP !! I'M BEING REPRESSED !!

 

He has any right to come here and discuss maxons price structure. As long as he is not unfriendly or trolling. Something that can be found in this forum unfortunately. 

 

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Of course he has every right. Yeah far to many people being unfriendly I mean If I was a Marxist I may have taken offence . I was not questioning his right, everybody has the right to do whatever they wish in this existence..I have the right to question them, support them oppose them or ignore them...I was questioning his motives. Perhaps he wants MAXON to make Cinema 4D free like Blender ? But as he states he does not like the program and finds difficulty in using it, I assume demo versions, what would be the point ?

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Jops..reading your posts on subscriptions you stated "However, MAXON is now a subsidiary of Nemechek (sic). And I’m afraid that’s where the problem lies. Profits that must have been made in the last 15 years were probably more likely to be skimmed off than to go into development" are you suggesting fraudulent activity at Nemetschek ?

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57 minutes ago, paulselhi said:

Jops..reading your posts on subscriptions you stated "However, MAXON is now a subsidiary of Nemechek (sic). And I’m afraid that’s where the problem lies. Profits that must have been made in the last 15 years were probably more likely to be skimmed off than to go into development" are you suggesting fraudulent activity at Nemetschek ?

No. every company has the right to decide how much money it wants to reinvest.

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Perhaps you could have chosen a better phrase. In English "skimming off" implies illicit siphoning of monies..

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*headdesk* I swear, threads about justified criticism always get derailed and mutilated and twisted until the original complaint is no longer even recognizeable.

 

Marxism, now? Really?

 

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