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Your'e hired! This work is so impressive - I have no words. For me, C4D is a tool used to get the message through. And this technique is even more efficient for this purpose than all the super-realistic renderings in the world there is. -Ingvar

>If your MSA extends past our next perpetual release you will get that as well. It is impossible for me to get anything tangible out of this. I pay for software in order to get software licenses. The MSA was mostly convenient for MAXON, making it possible to forecast incomes and to better plan for the future. For the customers, it meant earlier access to releases, and favorable pricing. But at the end of the day, as a customer, you have to get perpetual licenses, otherwise it is money out of the window. For the time being, as opposed to the last years, it is not clear anymore what I get out of the MSA agreement. For me, MAXON can cancel the agreement immediately. I will then see if there will be an R22 I can purchase using normal upgrade policies. -Ingvar

My thoughts exactly. Firstly: Lots of Thank You to you, Cairyn, and to the others here who have given valuable input. I am happy to see you folks engaged in this, even if it is not your particular case here. I will reply to DMcGavran in a separate post. -Ingvar

Hi Cairyn, now I am really confused. What you say here, is that it is business as usual regarding MSA? "MAXON told Greyscalegorilla that the MSA program will no longer continue" https://greyscalegorilla.com/2019/08/cinema-4d-redshift-subscription/ If you use the chart here, released from GeryscaleGorilla, there is no mention of the MSA whatsoever after September 2019. https://greyscalegorilla.com/2019/08/what-version-cinema-4d-buy-subscribe/ I am absolutely 100% confused. Not the least because it is not clear that there even will be a R22 at all / or when it, in case it will come, will be released. The yearly cycle of one release 1.st September can be broken. I believe this is realistic, when I read the rather cryptic statements coming from MAXON. So to continue with MSA one more year to get R22 at a good price, it seems very strange right now. Considering MAXON officially has stopped MSA and that MAXON might go the Microsoft route with Windows 10: Constant C4D updates, no new major version. -Ingvar

I believe I did start paying for the MSA in October 2014. And not i January 2015. Which contradicts the statement that "MSA follows the calendar year". If this is the case, I have already paid for 5 full years. I will have to check my account books. -Ingvar

But hasn't MAXON itself cancelled the MSA? ==== New MAXON Service Agreements are no longer available as of July 30, 2019. Renewals of MAXON Service Agreements will no longer be available after August 31, 2019. ==== https://www.MAXON.net/en/products/cinema-4d/new-in-release-21/faq/ As far as I understand, auto-renew isn't possible according to this. I will try to find the MSA agreement I have agreed upon. But there is something wrong here. -Ingvar

Hi, isn't MSA history by now? I got an invoice today, from the Norwegian representative for MAXON. MSA payment. When I protest, they claim that the MSA follows the calendar year, and that I still have to pay, as long as it is 2019. Is this correct? Does the MSA follow the calendar year? Isn't MSA over and out, totally? What if I don't pay? Will my Perpetual license for R21 be rendered invalid? What about you, some of you are former MSA subscribers, do you still pay for the MSA? -Ingvar

Thanks for the link. Very useful! -ingvar

He he, we are connected! It is called quantum entanglement, or Spooky action at a distance https://www.cnet.com/news/einstein-called-it-spooky-action-here-is-an-image-of-it-for-the-first-time/ -Ingvar

This is really fun. And shows that the dynamics in C4D is precise and accurate. Here is the video on YouTube that inspired me to test it in C4D: My project is attached. Have fun! -Ingvar The Dzhanibekov Effect.c4d

I understand this! Thanks for the advice. I am a modelling beginner and will not grow out of this stage, I leave it to those who can. In this case I just needed a quick solution. -Ingvar

Hi Bezo and thanks! Just what I was after. I just select the polygons I want to smooth out, the do an Invert, then apply the Set command. I wanted to smooth out just the edge of the shovel, and I achieved that. The SDS tag wasn't especially intuitive, I am at the beginner's level when it comes to modelling. But now I've got it. -Ingvar

Your welcome! I spent several hours (in fact a whole day) to make C4D R1 usable for me. I just could not work in the new dark environment. Strange that they didn't provide us with a "classic" option for the GUI, in R21 Preferences. I am a programmer, and make user interfaces all the time. And I am super-critical when I use software, and especially software with a bad GUI appearance and / or illogical way of doing things. In Cinema 4D I always felt like at home. I have always loved the user interface, both the very nice harmonic colors, and the very logical workflow, the logical way of doing things. R21 was the first time C4D did not appeal to me. Now it does, having tweaked the GUI colors, as close to the previous versions as possible. -Ingvar

When applying a Subdivision Surface, this excavator shovel becomes nicely rounded. Everywhere. But I want this to take part only on the back side and a few other places in this case. If I remember correct, there was a way to control the Subdivision effect by holding down the period key and dragging the mouse. Is this correct? When using the Menu to do this, the selected polygons are subdivided all right. But no smoothing takes place. What I want is to learn how to do this, not to get this particular object smoothed. The C4D project is attached. -Ingvar excavatorshovel.c4d

Serif Pageplus was the first real software I used when I got my first PC in 1994. I have always liked their products and policy. And have upgraded Pageplus, it is more than good enough for desktop publishing. -Ingvar