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  1. Here are some answers I got from EU MAXON that may clarify some things for long-term users: you have several options: You could extend your current MSA for another year (from September 2019 – August 2020). In this case you would get a permanent license of R21 in the beginning of September. Then you can decide to stay with the permanent license or to switch to subscription. As long as your MSA is valid we have a special offer for two years – you can switch to subscription for 959,81 Euro net (this price is the two year price) and we also check the remaining months of your MSA and credit this amount. Please note that with the change to subscription the permanent license of your R12 will no longer be valid You can start with subscription in September. If you order the subscription in September we can offer you the same like above You can start with subscription in October or later – in this case we can offer you a price of 479,90 Euro for the first year. In the second year you would have to pay 599,88 Euro net You can upgrade to R21 perpetual for 850 Euro net Cineversity is part of the subscription. If you want to add Redshift then you additionally have to pay 240 Euro net per year (so it seems that the amount you have to pay at the moment is a bit cheaper). If you have further questions don’t hesitate to contact us
  2. That is true, I could buy it from Sweden for example as I did Redshift and I get lower price to pay in the start since I get it without tax. They pay tax for that purchase. I'm not sure that is true for long-term customers, but lets wait and see what MAXON have in mind for us. I don't really mind not owning perpetual license as long as my costs using software over the year are reasonable. Some of us do not earn over 100k per year so "Indie" option would be something to conciser and would be welcomed much more than this vague presented scheme. That is true. But not as much benefits as when we payed for MSA (no Cineversity for example) That I doubt also for us with RS license, as long as RS maintenance extension stay at 214€, but with following trend I suspect that will change also. For 214€ I get full RS package; standalone and all plugins if I ever decide to use it with another DCC. RS in the bundle is only limited to C4D and it cost more annually. I think that Adobe buying C4D is not the problem in this moment. Problem is that we starting to see similar pattern in pricing policy. I think this was huge mistake to announce it like this without considering customers supporting MAXON for years. It may sound good for new customers but we don't know where we stand now so it is very very frustrating in this moment, I hope I'm wrong and there will be some benefits for old customers but in this moment as I can see that lot of old C4D users are not sure what will be transition period/costs for us.
  3. New pricing scheme in this moment is very vague for us paying MSA for years now. Bundle with RS does not make sense for existing RS license owners, since it is only limited to c4d plugin, no standalone/other DCC packages. I only hope that RS will not raise price for maintenance extension or cancel it as C4D did with MSA. "If you own a perpetual license of Cinema 4D, you’re eligible for discounted Cinema 4D subscription pricing. " This gives some hope but as long term existing customer I still don't know what would be my annual cost/benefits. Last year cost was 550€ (raised from 500€) for C4D MSA and 214€ for RS maintenance extension (764€ total). For that I had access to Cineversity, perpetual license for C4D and full license for RS. Sent questions to MAXON about those discounts for existing license owners but no answer yet. I guess we have to wait and see what "new low price" feature will bring. MAXON definitely need to introduce some "Indie" pricing scheme.
  4. Congrats Hrvoje, great training as usual! Especially I like examples that encourage one to use expresso/formulas since a lot of artists are kind of intimidated by using expresso/formulas and you make it look not so complicated. Looking forward to new lessons. Thank you. Best regards, ZG

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