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  1. Some great quotes:


    "I am getting great gas mileage: 2 weeks per gallon"

    "We are three weeks away from finding out what everyone's real hair color is like"

    "It wasn't until the Coronavirus that I found out that my lifestyle has a name: it is called "quarantine"


  2. 14 hours ago, Dardo said:

    Thanks for letting me know! I wasn't aware of it.

    My understanding is the pay will be direct deposited to an individual's bank account as long as you provided that banking information when you filed your 2018 Tax Return.


    Not  to rain on the good news, while I believe that the $2 trillion spending bill is necessary, when you pump close to 50% of the governments annual budget back into the economy then there will be some significant inflation (it's not like the government is going to figure out how to cut their annual spending....wouldn't that be nice).  


    To change subjects:  what hardware requirements does R22 require and where were they published?  There is nothing on the MAXON site about this.





  3. On 4/2/2020 at 10:02 AM, paulselhi said:

    Pipelines..use whatever tool you need for each task. Photoshop/Realflow/Zbrush/Cinema 4D..The end viewer cares not a jot how you got the images on screen. Use Gimp/Blender HOUDINI/MAYA..whatever suits the task at hand.

    It is not a marriage to one program or another..it is an orgy

    Love it!


    But I have to say, that since the move to subscriptions, the customer is NOT the one pitching in these orgies - we are the ones getting [GROSS EXPLETIVE DELETED BY MODERATORS





  4. 54 minutes ago, hvanderwegen said:


    I agree. AutoDesk announced 2 days ago that Max Indie is now available world-wide for $250 (per year rent) for any indie with an income lower than $100.000.


    Allow me to quote the following opinion from https://blenderartists.org/t/3ds-max-gets-a-slap-in-the-face/1154106/177:


    For MAXON to survive in the long run, just like AutoDesk, they will have to adjust to the changes ahead.

    The way I see it, is that C4d is in desperate need of a better built-in render solution. Standard/Physical is terribly outdated, slow, and can't match the quality nor the speed of modern competitors. Redshift should be included by default in C4d. This WILL happen in a few years. As far as I can tell, the only reason MAXON hasn't included it yet is because they a) milking the cash cow, and 2) management might not completely realize what is happening in the 3D DCC market.


    I just checked: renting C4d with Redshift would cost me ~can$ 1300. PER YEAR. While major parts of C4d lag behind the competition, including the free Blender. And C4d development trundles at a glacial pace compared to Blender - not to mention the ever-increasing ecosystem of plugins and support. Heck, I noticed that *.blend files have become one of the standard offered file formats on many 3d model asset sites in the past two years.


    MAXON will not be able to maintain their current business model for very long. Not with AutoDesk, Houdini, and Blender offering indies a far more viable cost model. And it's going to get worse for 3D DCC companies. With the economy's down-turn, C4d's yearly rental model has become quite repulsive - insulting even, when compared to its competitors.


    I think Mr. McGavran should print this out, keep it by his bedside and read it every morning when he first get's up.


    As to why Redshift is not included in C4D is clearly A) They are milking the cash cow.   Given their acquisition spree, they have to be.  I think this will not be a good year for MAXON.  I understand that the first full year of a subscription model is always the worst and now you have COVID19 on top of it.  Plus Blender is putting the pressure on them and essentially turning fully featured DCC software into a commodity.   Yeah....not a good combination.  Oh...and MAXON just made a few big acquisitions on top of all this.  My only suggestion to those who have to navigate these water is drink Pepto Bismol once a daily.  Read your post, drink Pepto Bismol, get up (skip showering as you are probably working from home anyway), and get to work.


    Also, wasn't one of the "advantages" of a subscription plan the mid-year release of new features?  Okay...we are 6 months in.  Let's see what happens.  I  mean we are talking about new features for R22, but they did sell subscriptions on the basis of mid-year updates.  So is it naive to expect some of these requests being fulfilled early?  You tell me.



  5. Object handling, viewport and speed improvements were on my list but completely slipped my mind.  Also not sure why we can't get a good symmetry tool after 10+ years of asking.  I think I just gave up.  And I do agree that the bridge tool needs to be a bit more context intuitive - maybe that goes with the viewport enhancements as the bridge tool is rather dumb in interpreting your selections in a crowded scene view.  Now, that could be operator error so I will defer to the experts here.


    Modeling falloff would also be nice....but couldn't that be replicated with fields as I thought fields will work on polygon objects.  Again - I defer to the experts.


    Relative to X-Particles -- Insydium would only take up that deal to sell a license at a reduced price ONLY if they raise their maintenance prices.  As I already own a license, that is of no benefit to me.  Hey, I have already taken it up the shorts for being a Studio owner.  For the past 10 years I had to pay higher maintenance prices but all the release upgrades were Prime, Broadcast, etc focused.  Please don't do that to me with my plugins!!!  Nope!  I want MAXON to put a little sweat into their particle/fluid solution as their implementations are usually just as brilliant.


    Yes....time for the new normal relative to financial recovery from COVID-19.  Something's got to give and right now (as I mentioned before) MAXON's licensing plan is very expensive relative to what others are doing.  So I agree that MAXON needs to rethink not where they are today on their licensing plan but where their customers are today financially.  


    I have heard economists say that COVID-19 is accelerating retail trends.  Those that were struggling (eg. no web-portal or on-line buying platform) will die quicker and those that are strong will get more business (eg. Amazon).  They were on their way to collapse anyway but COVID-19 just accelerated their decline.  Maybe the same can be said for DCC software.  In tough economic times, people and companies change how they spend and they change fast.  Maybe  Blender will get an even bigger big boost from all this than what 2.8 gave them: The software is free and powerful, plugins and training is plentiful and cheap.  Blenders biggest barrier has always been their UI.  So if 2.8 taught us anything, then going forward  every time they make their  UI a little more mainstream and a little easier to use, it is a game changer for EVERYONE.   Given the rate the pump out new releases....that should be unsettling to their competition - especially MAXON.


    Exciting times ahead.



  6. On 3/31/2020 at 7:20 PM, kmls said:

    -a compositor module with redgiant tools for post fx in c4d. 

    -redshift integration for c4d shaders like tiles, shapes and other things. and also some usual nodes like substance have.

    -volumetric sclupting like 3dcoat. and some addional sclupt brushes.

    -library assets for redsift. all materials should be as a alternatie. c4d can ask on instal and we can choose our version for our render engine. MAXON buyed redshift but already all materials only for standart render.... its weird. all of library nearliy useless. every time you should re create materials... autoconvert not works for most situations... so will be good if c4d ccontain a redshift version of libraries. or a addional redshift material pack.

    -update for old fossilized tools. particles, dynamics, uvs and others can be updated

    I think you are going to see R22 focus more on VFX work.  All the elements are there with field forces and OpenVDB support.  I would like to see improvements to AR or PR that help support native integration of a fluid simulation system built into C4D rather than rely on Redshift for volumetric rendering of VDB data sets.  Hopefully some of that RedGiant code for Trapcode Particular makes its way into a native C4D fluid simulation package.  I would also like to see AR or PR updated with better glows, volumetric lights, etc....again pulling on Red Giant.  In essence, if you are not going to make Redshift native to C4D, then please improve its existing render engines...I mean, we are paying high-end prices so we should expect those improvements in C4D core without having to pay more for Redshift.


    Next up would be a complete admission of defeat when it comes to Bodypaint and admit that Substance Painter is the ONLY way to go.  Therefore, focus on complete integration with all Allegorithmic products.  


    Finally, please do something with the monthly billing.  I know that the whole license server implementation was a big thing for MAXON in 2019, but you really need to step up the billing side of it.  Also, now that you have more products than just C4D, start to compare yourself to Adobe Cloud.  Honestly (while I would never thought these words would ever be typed by me), I would prefer Adobe Cloud's subscription program over what MAXON offers in their subscription program (yes...it's that bad and the fact that you only get 1 product from MAXON rather than a full suite of Adobe products, then by comparison MAXON's subscription program is far more expensive).

  7. With that much flexibility, do you ever find yourself in "analysis paralysis"?  I mean, once you are deep into a project, the non-destructive nature is wonderful, but how do you get started?  With standard modeling, you start with a spline or a primitive and then cut, push, pull and/or sculpt to get where you want to be (or what is in your minds eye).  It is almost tactile.  How do you get there with procedural nodes?  You blew my mind when you said "anything" can have as many attributes as you want.  Yes...I would be paralyzed.


    I would imagine that is the bulk of the learning curve....developing the methodology and approach to standard modeling tasks.


    What I love about C4D + XP is that they are both powerful and intuitive.  Together (especially with fields) they are like "Houdini for Dummies"...which is not meant to insult C4D or XP but rather compliment the fact that both programs walk the line between ease-of-use and power so effortlessly.


    I don't know....I guess this says it all



  8. 5 hours ago, GreatSummit said:




    Hi Dave,


    We are aware of this issue, we are not sure why Norton is doing this. We’ve sent a message to Norton to fix this. Hopefully this will be fixed soon.


    Have a nice day!

    Works for me now.  I looked into it and as best as I could tell, somewhere, somehow SSL certification failed and that certificate error caused Norton to give a warning.  It happens - albeit rarely.  Interesting that it is happening to more than just me as that would indicate that issue is with your ISP maintaining their CA certificates in good working order and probably not a Norton issue.  It might have something to do with pretty much all networks being severely overloaded right now given how many people are working remotely due to COVID19.  Maybe your ISP was doing some maintenance/upgrade at the time.  Who knows.




    P.S. Though I will admit that the Norton warning is a bit heavy-handed "The website you are visiting is a "known" dangerous web-site".  I mean have they met the people at the The Great Summit?  Very nice people if you ask me!

  9. On 3/21/2020 at 10:05 PM, bobc4d said:

    3D-Pangel, I completely agree with first part of you post. I'm 63, lived a full life and have no family. if it comes down to me getting a respirator or a young person, its young person every time. They are our future.  more than ever we need to ban together and help each other. yes isolate in attempt to contain this but help each other to get through this. 



    You are the better man.  If it was between me and someone younger, I would give it to someone younger.  But if it was between my wife and someone younger......well....as I said, I can imagine many hellish situations and that would be one of them because my wife would give it to the younger person and I would just die inside.  







  10. 16 hours ago, Igor said:

    Oh classicals, wonderfull. Some nice shares guys, awesome...thanks! :cowboypistol: 

    From my favorites music site: "Extreme Music" - a rather robust collection of classical composers (note the "Load More" button at the bottom of the screen shot below).   There are a total of 95 different classical albums grouped by composer each capable of streaming their contents to you WITHOUT ADS.  Two albums on Verdi alone.


    See for yourself here: https://www.extrememusic.com/labels/ultimate-classix


    Classical music is just one "label".  There are a total of 39 labels at Extreme Music.com (see them all here).  Some of the newer labels have only 1 or 2 albums and the older ones (like "X-series" which is mostly rock) have over 500 albums.  My favorites are "Spacetones" (9 albums), "Earthtones (12 albums", "Director Cuts" (214 albums), and  "Two Steps from Hell" (74 albums).  Trust me, there is something for everyone.





  11. 8 hours ago, Cerbera said:

    That periphery track is possibly my favourite guitar sound of all time !  That is some killer Djenting they have going on there 😉

    But, as partial as I might be to some prog metal fun (and there Liturgy  and Animals as Leaders win the crown for me) I don't find it helps with the 3D's (too full-on and distracting), so I'm with Igor on the nice chilled out epic orchestral soundtracks there - Howard Shore's Lord of the Rings is a strong favourite, as is anything by John Williams, Trevor Morris, Bryan Tyler or Hans Zimmer.




    If you want chill....James Horner.  Field of Dreams end theme is just outstanding as well as his composition called "The Horsemen".  Sad story actually.  The Horsemen were an aerial acrobatic team and James Horner was training with them to be a acrobatic pilot.  He wrote "The Horseman" as a tribute to his friends and teachers and something that they could play while performing.  In an interview, he said he never felt more free than when he flew and wanted that freedom to be reflected in his composition.


    James Horner passed away in 2015 while flying his acrobatic plane.  He was my favorite composer and I feel that loss to this very day.



  12. I also love orchestral music, but my tastes range to pretty much anything that has a good beat or compelling lyrics.  And if it is from the 80's (Billy Joel, Meatloaf, Elton John, Queen, Supertramp, Rolling Stones, The Who)...well, they are the classics aren't they?   Also, the music has to create a mood (sad, happy, angry, call to action, soothing, etc) and therefore I tend to prefer production music because their music is usually categorized as such based on the mood that needs to be created to fit whatever is being produced.


    But if you want an absolute bottomless well of any type of music you can think of streamed to your PC for free, I can think of no better site than Extreme Music.com (https://www.extrememusic.com/).


    Just go to that site and search on whatever your in the mood for.  Now they may not have main stream talent, but they have good talent (some you have and have not heard of) and tons of variety.



  13. 22 hours ago, MikeA said:


    There is one slight issue with your analysis...

    The vast majority of the population has some degree of immunity to the standard flu - that's why only a small proportion of us get it each year.

    None of us have immunity to the new Coronavirus. That's why many of us will get it. Multiply that by the suspected higher mortality rate and you have a much bigger problem.


    The other thing you might want to consider: Do you have any family, friends or aquaintences who are elderly or in poor health? I do. If someone passes Cv on to them - they have a much higher mortality rate. I have people in my family who will probably have a 50/50 chance of survival if they get infected with Cv.


    Bear that in mind folks.



    Hey...I am an older person.  Trust me, if it was between me and a younger person in need of a respirator at an over-burdened hospital, then the respirator goes to the younger person.  But that is not even the worst case scenario.  The worst case scenario is that it is between my wife and a younger person in need of a respirator at an over-burdened hospital and the respirator goes to the younger person.  


    Trust me....I can imagine many hells that can play out during this crises so I don't need you to tell what I have and have not considered.


    But living in a state of panic and fear is not the solution and helps no one.  Hoarding food is not the solution and helps no one (again no meat, dry goods or frozen food in the supermarket).  Constantly listening to the endless repetition of our media that has over-pivoted to panic is not the solution and helps no one.  Worrying about things for which you have no control is not the solution and helps no one.  Worrying about what the rate of infection will be in 3 weeks is not the solution and helps no one. 


    ...and worry will not create a hospital respirator when your suffering wife absolutely needs it. 


    The solution is to be disciplined.  To be careful. To be helpful to your neighbor (eg. volunteer to go to the supermarket for those who can not).  To pull together as a community while hunkering down.  The solution is to be informed about what you can do right now - and then do it!  Along those lines, I have also compiled a list of facts from various sources on how to deal with this virus.  Not all have been 100% cross-checked to completely insure validity, but they do make sense to me and I have distributed this list to others.  In the spirit of being helpful, of setting aside unproductive and self-indulgent worry with productive action, I have include that list below.




    The new Coronavirus may not show sign of infection for many days. How can one know if he/she is infected? By the time they have fever and/or cough and go to the hospital, the lung is usually 50% Fibrosis and it's too late. Taiwan experts provide a simple self-check that we can do every morning. Take a deep breath and hold your breath for more than 10 seconds. If you complete it successfully without coughing, without discomfort, stiffness or tightness, etc., it proves there is no Fibrosis in the lungs, basically indicates no infection. In critical time, please self-check every morning in an environment with clean air. 

    Excellent advice by Japanese doctors treating COVID-19 cases: 


    1. Everyone should ensure your mouth & throat are moist, never dry. Take a few sips of water every 15 minutes at least. Why? Even if the virus gets into your mouth, drinking water or other liquids will wash them down through your throat and into the stomach. Once there, your stomach acid will kill all the virus. If you don't drink enough water more regularly, the virus can enter your windpipe and into the lungs. That's very dangerous. 
    2. Drinking warm water is effective for all viruses. Try not to drink liquids with ice. 
    3. This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a temperature of just 26/27 degrees. It hates the Sun. 
    4. If someone sneezes with it, it takes about 10 feet before it drops to the ground and is no longer airborne. 
    5. If it drops on a metal surface it will live for at least 12 hours - so if you come into contact with any metal surface - wash your hands as soon as you can with a bacterial soap. 
    6. On fabric it can survive for 6-12 hours. normal laundry detergent will kill it. Increase the frequency of your laundry.  Smaller loads every two days is a good recommendation (especially bath and hand towels).
    7. Wash your hands frequently as the virus can only live on your hands for 5-10 minutes, but - a lot can happen during that time - you can rub your eyes, pick your nose unwittingly and so on. 
    8. When washing your hands, don’t forget the finger tips and the thumbs.  20 seconds of washing in warm water should be sufficient.  Also, keep your fingernails short.
    9. Open a window every now and then -- let the fresh air in if you can especially if you are in cold climate.  Better to let in the cold outside air than breath the same recycled air over and over again where you live.
    10. Replace your toothbrush on a more regular basis.
    11. You should also gargle as a prevention. A simple solution of salt in warm water will suffice. 
    12. Can't emphasis enough - drink plenty of water! 

    KNOW THE SYMPTOMS: In short, if you have a runny nose and sputum, you have a common cold. Coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough with no runny nose. 

    1. It will first infect the throat, so you'll have a sore throat lasting 3/4 days 
    2. The virus then blends into a nasal fluid that enters the trachea and then the lungs, causing pneumonia. This takes about 5/6 days further. 
    3. With the pneumonia comes high fever and difficulty in breathing. 
    4. The nasal congestion is not like the normal kind. You feel like you're drowning. It's imperative you then seek immediate attention.


  14. 3 hours ago, paulselhi said:

    Yes i will cover both. You can get feedback quickly but the smoke shading is not yet up to scratch in TFD v1..that will be changing and Jawset are going to  impress you  with the next release..


    My jaw hit the floor on that one.  Really, a next release?  I mean really?  Honestly, I wish all companies were like Jawset because the software is incredible, it works with pretty much everything (all external renderers and even competitors like XP and Realflow), intuitive and fun to use.  Plus the guy just keeps cranking out updates for free (eg. no maintenance plans).  Not sure how he makes money but if he comes out with a V2, then he is definitely deserving a few coin for an upgrade.


    I hope V2 is true and within my lifetime!



  15. All,


    Be smart, stay safe and DON'T PANIC. Really, for the vast majority of us, the worst case  scenario will be you get the flu. Normal influenza mortality rate is 0.2%.  But what do they say about COVID-19?  "It is 10 times more deadly than influenza!!!"  That statement alone puts a shiver down your spine.  But what if they said "Your chances of surviving COVID-19 is 98%" would you be as alarmed?  Both say the same thing.  To put in perspective, remember H1N1 (or swine flu)?  That virus existed in the US for 6 months with over 1000 deaths before it was declared a crises in 2010.  Ultimately, 12,000 people died from it in the US alone.  Last year, 16.5 million people got standard influenza in the U.S. and 34,200 died from it. 


    Now I am not downplaying the seriousness of this COVID-19  outbreak and I do agree with the precautions taken to date.  We have shut more of our life down (sporting events, business, restaurants, shops, etc)  for COVID-19 than we have every shut down in the past.  In fact we did nothing in the past.  Therefore, I am hopefully confident that you will not see mortality rates from COVID-19 as high as what you would see from standard influenza.  I mean over 34,000 people died from standard influenza it last year in the US, but how often was that fact at the top of the news cycle?  Trust me, only on the slow news days if at all.


    So let's be smart, wash our hands (20 seconds with soap and water and don't forget the finger tips or your thumbs), practice social distancing (6 feet) and PLEASE DO NOT OVER-REACT.  This is NOT the zombie apocalypse.  You don't need to hole up in a bunker for the next 3 months with MRE's and 100 roles of toilet paper.  So no hoarding.  There is no food shortage!  Your supermarket will be re-stocking the shelves next week....and the week after that....and the week after that.....etc.   


    If you are healthy and without any respiratory illnesses or compromised immune systems (which I hope is the vast majority of us) - you should be fine.  Just live your life. You made it through H1N1.  You made it through past flu seasons.  You will make it through this.


    Honestly, I just want to be able to go to the store and get toilet paper (not having toilet paper would be a real crises).




    BTW: Prior to the swine flu pandemic in the US, the last big pandemic was the Hong Kong flu in 1968.  That flu killed 100,000 people in the US (a million world wide).  On the Pandemic index scale of 1 to 5, it was a 2 (Swine flu was a 1).  I got the Hong Kong flu as a young lad.  Needless to say, I am still here. 

  16. One thing which I do like about the Octane and Redshift tutorials is how they use the volume shaders to control smoke/fire rendering.  You can very quickly and intuitively change the entire look of the simulation by playing with these shaders (eg.  all smoke to hot fire and everything in between).  Prior to seeing those tutorials, similar results in TFD using AR required a lot more fiddling with the simulation parameters if you wanted a really good looking combination of fire and smoke.


    Therefore, can you get this same level of feedback using R20+ native nodal shading systems or do you still need to work it internally within TFD's simulation parameters?  That would be very interesting to hear.  If, for example I don't have Redshift but your tutorials show that Redshift produces amazing results twice as fast than using AR...well, that is good information (eg. that is just one more reason to get Redshift).


    Personally I don't think it can be either AR or Redshift....honestly, you need to cover both in your tutorials.



  17. Believe it or not, if it wasn't for Softimage, NONE OF US would be where we are today.  Here is why and it goes all the way back to 1993.


    At that time, Silicon Graphics workstations were the only way to get any serious computer animation work done.  Unfortunately, they topped out over $20,000 USD (and this is in 1993 dollars).  So for pretty much everyone, high end computer animation was limited to a very limited number of people in the early 1990's.  


    And then Jurassic Park was released.


    Jurassic Park used Alias/Wavefront (owned by Silicon Graphics and the great grandfather of Maya) for modeling and Softimage for animation.  The world was changed overnight and computer animated dinosaurs become the face of high-end computing and an SGI Onyx Workstation was the only hardware you could get to run this software.


    And then Microsoft made an interesting move.


    Prior to Jurassic Park's release, Microsoft was just not convincing anyone that WinNT was a viable platform for high-end computing.  In the mind of pretty much everyone, Windows was  synonymous with home PC's and they just could not break through into the mainframe or high-end computing market.  To change that, they needed to prove that computationally intensive software could run just as well on a WinNT operating system.


    So Microsoft purchased Softimage.  Now they could have purchased some finite element software, or some CAD software but they were simply not sexy enough (that is, not many people really knew or cared to know what a finite element program does).  At that time, the whole world thought that computer generated dinosaurs was the epitome of high-end computing so they had to buy the software that created those images.  They could not buy Alias/Wavefront as that was owned by SGI, their competitor.  So they bought Softimage and immediately went about converting it to run on WinNT.


    And that conversion changed our world and killed SGI.  People saw that a $5000 WinNT box could now run software that previously could only run on a $20,000 Onyx workstation.  That move convinced the world that WinNT was in fact a viable OS for high-end computationally intensive programs and now everyone was converting their software to run on WinNT as it provided a cheaper hardware path.  And as the demand for hardware to run WinNT increased, hardware prices came down even more and the cycle continues.  Once Microsoft proved their point, they sold Softimage to Avid in 1998 (obviously not part of their long term strategy).


    Therefore, had not Softimage been used in Jurassic Park, the move to put high-end computer animation software on something cheaper than an Onyx workstation probably would have taken a bit longer and cost a bit more....which means we would not be where we are today.


    So even if you have never used Softimage, we need to be thankful for it.



  18. Very impressive. I stepped away from Vue in 2016 as the company was just simply having some serious issues after being acquired by Bentley and have been looking for a program that provides a pleasant and intuitive UI experience for terrain creation.  WC looks to provide that capability (the terrain sculpting demo was outstanding). 


    I did view Winbush's tutorial on export to C4D but he was using Redshift.  A quick search on Youtube and the tutorials at WC's web-site had other tutorials on exporting to C4D but only using 3rd party renderers.    I find this rather odd....any thoughts as to why there are not examples of WC being exported to C4D native's renderer or material systems?  Now that C4D has a full fledged BSDF based nodal material system, I would imagine that it is capable of similar results.   So what is C4D missing that can only be filled by Redshift or Octane?



  19. The Corridor Crew will love this (great YouTube channel IMHO...and they use C4D).


    Interesting...markerless motion capture (MMC) comes to C4D.  Believe it or not, MMC has applications in manufacturing.  There has been some discussion on using it to monitor an assembly technician's actions during production.  Track their motions so that if they reach for the wrong part or put it in the wrong place, then an alarm sounds.  In essence, prevent the defect from occurring rather than inspecting quality into the product after assembly is completed.  There are other ways to do this that are right now better and more exact, but I always had a soft spot for MMC.



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