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  1. Checked my MSA from July 2019: Thank you for renewing your MSA Subscription. You'll be receiving another year of benefits, including free upgrades and access to Cineversity. So, I expect a free upgrade to r22 as it falls within the year. Simple as that.
  2. It's pretty random. And not even with complex meshes. I will just select something and it crashes. In general it is mostly time related, it works well for a few hours (3 to 6 hrs), then crash! I did some settings changes MAXON sent but no luck. Meanwhile, none of my other apps crash at all (ie Adobe CC, etc.) Keep sending bug reports but with r22 am I now stuck twisting in the wind? With no bug fix in sight? Hence the crankiness.
  3. I think it is just group therapy (anger management)! I am especially cranky because C4D on Catalina (which I am forced to use because of my 2019 Mac Pro) is crashing randomly with no answer in sight from MAXON. This is the r21 that I "own" that will be left as a bugfest. I can't see them fixing r21 now at all - and I don't want a subscription piece of software, I paid full price for a full year MSA in August 2019. They also seem to say there will never be a full buy option. P.S. With most TV / Movie production shut down I think a lot of subscr
  4. Hmmm... so my MSA got me 6 months of r21 (which is a bit buggy on my Mac Pro). So that means no updates, fixes for r21. The option is to convert to subscription but lose ownership of r21. What a deal! I have to check k the language of my MSA but I thought it covered any updates until July 2020 for me - have to see the legal language. I 'should' get a free update to r22... 'should.' But who knows... Thanks MAXON...
  5. Dave I know the main point is keep us happy while this marketing plan goes through. Offer beers, friendly responses, etc. I’ve been in the meetings before where suckering the user base is a typical strategy, so nothing new to see here. It may not be obvious to some people, but this is the friendly face of corporate, while they herd you into a little box, and pick your pockets. The truth is, unless MAXON/Nemechek (sp?) get hurt on the balance sheets, there will be no good path for longtime Studio owners. But, I think you do have a way to hedge your bets to quiet the bac
  6. Well I can download my perpetual r21 - but not that excited. Especially with broken plugins. On CGTalk they say the denoiser doesn't work well with animations (they said it causes blotchiness)- that was a feature I thought I might like. I'm trying to be interested but I guess I'm on r20 until they add something better to the mix. Still wish they 'd get better algorithms for creating geometry (like other apps out there). I mean, it's a computer program, it is supposed to do the tedious work making clean meshes - not me. I feel just "meh" about it all. C'mon MAXON, don't make us cheat on you.
  7. I think they are full of the rah-rah subscriber kool-aid right now. It's actually delusional. They think they're Adobe, but as I said before, MAXON is not Adobe. 1.) 3D software is very niche, unlike most Adobe offerings which offer you a suite most people can figure out how to use very quickly for MUCH less money. 2.) Adobe actually charges a true month to month fee (not a yearly that is $750+ US lump sum). 3.) There are many competitive 3D apps for less, and in the case of blender, free. 4.) Just read how one company who bought some full C4D Studio seats are going to go back to Maya as it is
  8. A not so amusing coincidence on this issue. I have x-particles, which uses an online licensing scheme. Yesterday was starting up C4D and x-particles wouldn't load - came back with a "not connected to internet" - though I was connected in this case. I kept trying and it said the same thing, not connected. Meanwhile all network connections worked. Still is a dead plugin today. Not sure if it will fix itself or some other thing is going on Luckily I didn't need x-particles for the job I'm on. But if I was on a deadline and this nonsense occurred we would be in serious trouble - can't
  9. Yes, and we do deal with CAD files a lot, and do own a copy of Modo just to deal with making better models and CAD issues (Power Translators makes a better CAD model with less polygons than C4D). Irritates me to spend on all that extra software, but then we also have PTC Creo (not a favorite) We make some frightening meshes sometimes because we deal with complex human tissue (it is also a UV nightmare). And clients have crushing deadlines that we have to deal with. Speed is critical. If I had endless time I would make pristine meshes - but time for that doesn't always exist. In the end we will
  10. I'm talking about all the new users that they plan on bringing in - that's the whole point of 'whole world' - the base is what they have now. But they don't care about the base they are trying to get 3D into the hands of everyone. I hope that is clear. Ha! Mesh Creation Core™ - I was typing with any editing - I was just talking about the code that deals with creating the geometry (no clue what MAXON terms it, or how many sub areas of code there are (i'm not a programmer) - this part of the software is still unpredictable once you go beyond simple, primitive objects. Hell, dealing w
  11. Will be getting r21 (as my MSA ends in July 2020 and I already paid). So, what to do? r21 breaks all plugins, so I doubt I will be using the new version at all until maybe December at the earliest. Will start learning another 3D app on the side in the meantime, always meant to, but now there is a good reason to. Will see if MAXON fixes their mesh creation core - it is terrible at the moment, generates unholy polygon meshes that need endless fixing. If by next year r22 is the same snore-fest as r21 I'll know that i'll start converting all my libraries and old jobs to another format
  12. Hi Rick, I don't think it's the tease of new features (which of course we all want) I think it's more being able to get at older configurations. There are many older plugins that are great but only work in r16 or some other old version. Fact is, we have to have r19 available just to open older files from before r12. So we'll always need r19 lurking around. The new "whole world" mass appeal user may never use all the crazy add-ons that are available - and that's great for them. But I think Dave & Co really didn't consider the long-time, hardcore studio user who is actually making the bulk o
  13. Definitely agree - I do that now with any critical software. Things do disappear on the internet, generally installers and other large files. Your social media posts may not disappear, but the valuable stuff does. And also MAXON has a habit of breaking plugins, so i keep some old versions around in case I need to run some past plugin - has saved me multiple times. That's a fact.
  14. It’s funny I’ve been doing this for so long I know how the meetings went… Actually, what is below is more brutally phrased, as this stuff it’s always parsed in nicer, more optimistic ways, but this sums it up. MBA Hack: “Don’t worry, we can keep our current users happy by giving them a “perpetual” license. At least for now.” MAXON staffer: “But they aren’t going to be thrilled by this news. And it really isn’t perpetual.” MBA Hack: “We know that, but its our job to sell this initiative - this is how it is going to be. So just keep those people calm until this gets fully i
  15. I think they should be a bit afraid. First, they aren't Adobe, with a suite of many apps, most with no real competitors. They also don'y and will never have a huge customer base like Adobe. Adobe is huge - 10,000+ employees, how big is MAXON in comparison? I saw there are 111 employees on Linkedin. Someone may know the number, but they are not Adobe. Hell, they aren't even Autodesk. Second, 3D is not so easy to use or learn - I have watched people just give up on it out of frustration - they can make a few things, but nothing really great. It ain't Photoshop or InDesign


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